CTE. Why I think it works...
- Thread starter Billiard Architect
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So what I've got so far
Fractional
General physical location
Fine tuning
Subjectively
Subconscious
Confirm or deny
Inferred
Objective
Convey
Idiotic
Mis convey
Childish
Troll
Superimpose
Ghost ball
Virginity
Vasoline
Valium
Back hand aiming
Raped
Impregnated
Seed
Theoretically
Perceptial options
And that's just a start. What is wrong with you people? No, seriously?
Jason
Fractional
General physical location
Fine tuning
Subjectively
Subconscious
Confirm or deny
Inferred
Objective
Convey
Idiotic
Mis convey
Childish
Troll
Superimpose
Ghost ball
Virginity
Vasoline
Valium
Back hand aiming
Raped
Impregnated
Seed
Theoretically
Perceptial options
And that's just a start. What is wrong with you people? No, seriously?
Jason
Haven;t been that low on the scale in a long, long, time. Yes, I have improved. I'm not a pro, it takes much more than just aiming to be a pro. But, I have played a few pros and held my own against them.
What's wrong with you that you have to revive a post just to post something negative about it?
I've seen you play and would love to get in the box with you.
Revive? It was like the 5th post down lol. Plus I want to make sure Philly reaches his predicted number of posts in this thread.:thumbup:
Actually it was the FIRST post in Aiming. So maybe I'm reving the entire aiming thread - you're welcome
Jason
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So, what has that got to do with the system? Their are probably thousands of guys that can beat me. So what. Guess you were just wanting to troll the thread and couldn't handle getting a response of someone that can play and has improved.
Why some of you have such a problem with something that helps so many is beyond me.
edit: If you are so good, go take Dr. Daves B.U. exams and earn yourself an easy $500.
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Or maybe I'm just interested in all the smoke, mirrors, magic, and other voodoo(or is it doo doo) in these threads.
So, what has that got to do with the system? Their are probably thousands of guys that can beat me. So what. Guess you were just wanting to troll the thread and couldn't handle getting a response of someone that can play and has improved.
Why some of you have such a problem with something that helps so many is beyond me.
You misunderstood - I'm saying you can't play. I've seen it with my own 1 good eye.
So, what has that got to do with the system? Their are probably thousands of guys that can beat me. So what. Guess you were just wanting to troll the thread and couldn't handle getting a response of someone that can play and has improved.
Why some of you have such a problem with something that helps so many is beyond me.
edit: If you are so good, go take Dr. Daves B.U. exams and earn yourself an easy $500.
Wss thinking about doing that....It's slightly more difficult on a 10' table with 4 1/8" pockets.
Hows it going on your barbox?
Edit: not to mention I'm in the process of moving, so I won't have any table at all
Good for you. Does saying that make you feel like a big man?? :bow-down:
Why should I be mad? Just because someone thinks they play better than I do? That would be pretty stupid. That would take an ego as big as CJ's or Rick's. By the way, if you have to troll on the internet to get a game, you are going about it all wrong.
Lol. Went with the old I'll play anybody in here for $500 the other night, response was you dont even have $500. I responded with I'll bet you a hundred I do - no takers on either, but I believe one of the guys is gonna play me for a little sumptin
I disagree.
Last Tuesday I gave a CTE lesson to a man who bought Stan's DVD. He could not figure it out on his own. We played the DVD and stopped every few minutes so I could explain the content with examples in ways he could understand. At the end of two hours he was making shots way above his skill level. His exact words were, "I would never consider trying these shots in a game."
These were shots that he didn't try a million times to brute force program his inner computer. These were "hard" shots that he set up on his own to test the visual concepts he had learned.
I have seen this over and over throughout the years, going back well before CTE/ProOne. When I was teaching some of Hal's systems I had the same experience of players starting to make shots that were above their skill level in less than an hour.
As with jumping using jump cues I feel that it often comes down to how the concept is explained. I had to learn many ways to explain the mechanics needed to jump accurately in order to teach my customers.
I can certainly understand that your son didn't "get it" when it comes to CTE. This is not an easy visual concept to explain. Fractional aiming, even ghost ball are much easier to explain and for beginners and intermediate players to "see". I think that when it comes to CTE many of us need to develop alternate ways to get the shooter to come to the right visuals. It takes time to be able to translate what we see into language that they can understand IMO.
I found it very helpful to myself to be able to take Stan's video and watch it with someone else and have to interpret it for them. It forced me to think about how I actually see CTE and whether it is really in alignment with how Stan teaches it. For the most part that answer is yes and teaching with the DVD (to someone who already has watched the DVD) is a great way to ground myself in the fundamentals of CTE.
So, where I agree with you is that CTE works because of trust developed in the system to bring you to the shot line. I don't agree that it's because of simply developing shot pictures through rote practice on individual shots.
I contend that I could teach a person CTE for a solid week, not allowing them practice any given shot more than ten times and after that week they would score pretty highly on any shotmaking test out there. Assuming that the following were true; they have to have a straight stroke, they have to demonstrate that they can accurately apply the steps for any shot they may face. With that in mind I fully believe that they will be very accurate for just about every shot that can be made directly into a pocket after one solid week of dedicated training. By that I mean like 20+ hours.
As I have said many times I think CTE is like having a set of keys and for just about every shot one of those keys will work. When an experienced CTE user walks up to a shot then he immediately discards all but one or two keys. Most of the time the right key leaps to mind and he can instantly go down to shooting stance.
As to why CTE works, I think that it does dial the shooter into the shot visually, I think that the two lines act as a focus that bring the eyes into the right space in sharp detail. In upright stance the shooter is literally facing the cueball within a mm of the right shot line according to my drawings and experience. But it all hinges on being able to see the visuals correctly and apply the steps.
I wish we would have had time to get some table time in. I find that discussing these things online is really tough to come to any mutual understanding. This ranks up there second only to politics to cause division among players who discuss stuff onlne
And maybe what is hustling as well
Most of the time when I can get someone to the table I can demonstrate it well enough to prove the validity. Except for 10k obviously ;-)
We've been waiting for you.
Lol. Good stuff.