Is it the shaft or the butt

[bbb]

Once again - no.

Dale

dale
i respect your opinions
what do you think made those early cuemakers cues have such a great reputation ???
and do you think the same reasons are true today for the modern day cues with great reputations as players??
and for modern day i dont mean the talented cuemakers who can turn a cue stick into beautiful art

 

[Shawn Armstrong]

i am sorry if i did not make my point clear to you
i guess there is no reason for you to continue to participate
thank you for your response

Is it the shaft or the butt? It's the shaft. Been shown countless times that the butt makes absolutely no difference in the playability of a cue. "Feel" is totally subjective. But you could thread a shaft onto a Szam or a broomstick, and the deflection and playing characteristics would be the same.

The cuemakers you mentioned have a reputation, the same way as classic cars are sought after. Legacy and nostalgia. Nothing more. Would I rather play with a Balabushka or a Schon? Hmm....Schon. Would I rather flip a Balabushka or a Schon? Balabushka. Because even though the Schon is made of better materials and has modern adhesives and finishes, there's a near infinite supply.

I think most of these cuemakers do not have a wait list of 5+ years because they make a superior cue to anyone else. It's simply supply, demand, and the principle of scarcity. That's all.

A Szam does not play better than a Predator. They just play different. And performance would be a subjective matter. If I like low deflection cues, the Szam would be a bad cue, according to me. The Predator would be great.

I also think Bob Meucci was the first guy to throw out the term "deflection" in the 80s. So I'm quite sure that the cuemakers of the 60s and 70s weren't even thinking of deflection when they made their cues.

 

[bbb]

Is it the shaft or the butt? It's the shaft. Been shown countless times that the butt makes absolutely no difference in the playability of a cue. "Feel" is totally subjective. But you could thread a shaft onto a Szam or a broomstick, and the deflection and playing characteristics would be the same.

The cuemakers you mentioned have a reputation, the same way as classic cars are sought after. Legacy and nostalgia. Nothing more. Would I rather play with a Balabushka or a Schon? Hmm....Schon. Would I rather flip a Balabushka or a Schon? Balabushka. Because even though the Schon is made of better materials and has modern adhesives and finishes, there's a near infinite supply.

I think most of these cuemakers do not have a wait list of 5+ years because they make a superior cue to anyone else. It's simply supply, demand, and the principle of scarcity. That's all.

A Szam does not play better than a Predator. They just play different. And performance would be a subjective matter. If I like low deflection cues, the Szam would be a bad cue, according to me. The Predator would be great.

I also think Bob Meucci was the first guy to throw out the term "deflection" in the 80s. So I'm quite sure that the cuemakers of the 60s and 70s weren't even thinking of deflection when they made their cues.

thank you for you thoughtful reply
:thumbup:

 

[sixpack]

Is it the shaft or the butt? It's the shaft. Been shown countless times that the butt makes absolutely no difference in the playability of a cue. "Feel" is totally subjective. But you could thread a shaft onto a Szam or a broomstick, and the deflection and playing characteristics would be the same.

The cuemakers you mentioned have a reputation, the same way as classic cars are sought after. Legacy and nostalgia. Nothing more. Would I rather play with a Balabushka or a Schon? Hmm....Schon. Would I rather flip a Balabushka or a Schon? Balabushka. Because even though the Schon is made of better materials and has modern adhesives and finishes, there's a near infinite supply.

I think most of these cuemakers do not have a wait list of 5+ years because they make a superior cue to anyone else. It's simply supply, demand, and the principle of scarcity. That's all.

A Szam does not play better than a Predator. They just play different. And performance would be a subjective matter. If I like low deflection cues, the Szam would be a bad cue, according to me. The Predator would be great.

I also think Bob Meucci was the first guy to throw out the term "deflection" in the 80s. So I'm quite sure that the cuemakers of the 60s and 70s weren't even thinking of deflection when they made their cues.

What about a one-piece maple cue? Like a bar cue. More or less deflection? they usually have really soft tips I don't know how that affects it.