are apa.rule haters pansies ?

[KRJ]

Never played APA 9b, but why "points", why not the same race as in 8b. thus, higher rated folks are giving out games on the wire ? Would APA players like this format better as well, or is it a thing that lower level players can get some points without actually winning that is attractive ?? Not a bash, just curious ??

 

[justadub]

Never played APA 9b, but why "points", why not the same race as in 8b. thus, higher rated folks are giving out games on the wire ? Would APA players like this format better as well, or is it a thing that lower level players can get some points without actually winning that is attractive ?? Not a bash, just curious ??

My guess is that the early-9 possibility would result in far too many beginners just taking flyers at hitting the current object ball hard, and seeing if the 9 would somehow fall.

Merely a guess.

 

[erhino41]

My guess is that the early-9 possibility would result in far too many beginners just taking flyers at hitting the current object ball hard, and seeing if the 9 would somehow fall.

Merely a guess.

You don't need to play apa to watch folks chasing that cheese blindfolded. Against some opponents i cringe if I ever put the OB anywhere near the nine ball.

 

[justadub]

You don't need to play apa to watch folks chasing that cheese blindfolded. Against some opponents i cringe if I ever put the OB anywhere near the nine ball.

Which is why the APA points based version works, for the bulk of the players.... getting that extra point for the 9 isn't such a big deal compared to the ones on the table that could be able to be run.

Even APA players figure that out fairly quickly, at least someone on the team usually will, and we don't see the 9-riding a heck of a lot in our division. Unless its really the only decent shot.

 

[Celophanewrap]

Which is why the APA points based version works, for the bulk of the players.... getting that extra point for the 9 isn't such a big deal compared to the ones on the table that could be able to be run.

Even APA players figure that out fairly quickly, at least someone on the team usually will, and we don't see the 9-riding a heck of a lot in our division. Unless its really the only decent shot.

I love the player that gets BIH off the break and looks for the 1-9 (and every ball in between) they line that up and POW! every now and then it works
Kinda cracks me up

 

[ceebee]

QUOTE; If APA rules make it too level for you, then maybe the APA isn't for you, it ain't for everyone, you know UNQUOTE

I played APA a couple seasons, BCAPl wasn't available then. I've never gone back to APA, never liked it again.

 

[pt109]

For all you guys that think players that like to push out are pansies....
....including the OP...

...if y'all had been around in the action days when everybody played 'roll out'...
...where you could push on EVERY shot....
....you would've thought that every action room was a gay bar

 

[Celophanewrap]

QUOTE; If APA rules make it too level for you, then maybe the APA isn't for you, it ain't for everyone, you know UNQUOTE

I played APA a couple seasons, BCAPl wasn't available then. I've never gone back to APA, never liked it again.

See there, good choice, it obviously isn't for you. I'm glad you've found something agreeable to you

 

[Celophanewrap]

For all you guys that think players that like to push out are pansies....
....including the OP...

...if y'all had been around in the action days when everybody played 'roll out'...
...where you could push on EVERY shot....
....you would've thought that every action room was a gay bar

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Well everyone in there looks happy, is it a gay bar?

 

[pt109]

Well everyone in there looks happy, is it a gay bar?

The term 'gay' originally meant promiscuous....then it evolved to mean happy...
.....hence "the gay nineties" ....
...seems to me the term 'gay' has went back towards it's roots.

 

[Allen Brown]

PT is that you? You play on Valley's? What kind of cue you got?

Don't push out and don't be a pansy.

It's all about being a shot taker and ball maker.

 

[Celophanewrap]

The term 'gay' originally meant promiscuous....then it evolved to mean happy...
.....hence "the gay nineties" ....
...seems to me the term 'gay' has went back towards it's roots.

I had no real idea, so I looked, seems to have originally meant both:

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=gay

gay (adj.) Look up gay at Dictionary.com
late 14c., "full of joy, merry; light-hearted, carefree;" also "wanton, lewd, lascivious" (late 12c. as a surname, Philippus de Gay), from Old French gai "joyful, happy; pleasant, agreeably charming; forward, pert; light-colored" (12c.; compare Old Spanish gayo, Portuguese gaio, Italian gajo, probably French loan-words). Ultimate origin disputed; perhaps from Frankish *gahi (related to Old High German wahi "pretty"), though not all etymologists accept this. Meaning "stately and beautiful; splendid and showily dressed" is from early 14c. In the English of Yorkshire and Scotland formerly it could mean "moderately, rather, considerable" (1796; compare sense development in pretty (adj.)).

 

[KRJ]

Which is why the APA points based version works, for the bulk of the players.... getting that extra point for the 9 isn't such a big deal compared to the ones on the table that could be able to be run.

Even APA players figure that out fairly quickly, at least someone on the team usually will, and we don't see the 9-riding a heck of a lot in our division. Unless its really the only decent shot.

Yeah, I think that has to be part of it... also, the lower level players are gonna have many more failed run outs, but this way, they still collect a few points along the way to help the team.

 

[justadub]

Yeah, I think that has to be part of it... also, the lower level players are gonna have many more failed run outs, but this way, they still collect a few points along the way to help the team.

That is a different set of "points".... Each skill level has a certain number of points to get to to win their particular match. Depending on how much they win by, determines how many match points each player in a given match gets for their team, built on a scale for each skill level.

For instance, me being SL5, if I lose my match, and I get to 25 points before my opponent wins, that is a 15-5 split. The winner gets 15 points for their team, I get 5 points for my team.

The best anyone can get is a 20-0 shutout, all the way down to a 12-8 split for a close match.

 

[Shawn Armstrong]

In Golf if you shoot your ball into the water its a hazard, your not going to go into the water and play it from there, it gets spotted so yea you can say you get a push in Golf.

As far as ( Jump Club ) well there are certain Clubs for certain shots like a sand wedge club used for playing your ball out of a sand trap. I don't even play or watch Golf for that matter.

Yeah, I figured that out from your post.

 

[justadub]

I realize, re-reading what I just typed, that it sounds rather complicated.

Truly, it's not that difficult, when you have the scoresheet in front of you. The charts are right there, and its quite simple to determine the point spread for each match.

Describing it, however, does seems convoluted. It really isn't

 

[pt109]

PT is that you? You play on Valley's? What kind of cue you got?

Don't push out and don't be a pansy.

It's all about being a shot taker and ball maker.

I have very little bar experience....
...and my cue collection is worth more than some of the bars I've seen...

I played a set once on a Valley...but I couldn't figure out how to get to the hill...

...and when I said "Push"most of the patrons of that establishment wanted to know what I had to sell.

 

[Skippy27]

The push out in 9B is a glorified safety that you get to do anything with and your opponent gets to take the challenge or give it back to you.

It is simply an easier out when you stick yourself on the break than if you had to get a good hit or find another way to tie them up and prevent a run out.

I don't play league 9B, but some friends and I play it often as practice and we don't use push outs as we enjoy the added challenge of trying to make shots, even when we are stuck.

Maybe getting rid of the push out would end some of these ridiculous run ups in 9 ball. I'm not talking about running 10 racks, as that right there shows the game is too easy for them to get a pushout to begin with. I am speaking of people winning a game, getting stuck on break, pushing and then getting the table back to continue their streak.

I think it is silly to say you love the string of run outs that all these great players have but wait.... they need a pushout if their break doesn't go so well for them. Boohoo!