10-4?
Lou Figueroa
oh come on, John. You were a wild man back on RSB too. Including the time you sent me an email that used a common four letter word as a verb, adjective, and noun in one short, pity sentence, as in: "F*** you, you f***ing, f***."
Lou Figueroa
lol, none of that matters. Still:
Lou:1
John: a big fat ZERO
Lou Figueroa
knows that drives
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This forum is superior to facebook in every single way but one. And even in that one way only some people see facebook as being superior and others actually see it as just another drawback like all the rest.
And that one way that facebook is better in some people's minds is that you have control over who has access to read or respond to your posts. Essentially you can censor people at your will and get rid of anyone you don't like or agree with or anyone that disagrees with you.
While this certainly has its usefulness, in my opinion it is mostly preferred and used by the people who are afraid of being challenged on something because they are afraid of looking stupid if they are ever caught lying or being wrong. Being able to get rid of trolls isn't the main draw. It is being able to remove anyone that disagrees with you or will call you out when you are lying that is the main draw. They want to be in a place where the only people that can read or respond to what they write are the "yes men" that treat everything they say as gospel and who will never disagree with them (and where you can just get rid of the ones who do). This is one of the reasons why the pros for the most part are only on facebook, so they only have to deal with the "yes men" who will never disagree with them even when they tell an untruth or are wrong about something.
Being able to block who you want does have some benefits when it comes to getting rid of those that never have valuable input and are always just trolling, but those people really are few and far between if we are honest with ourselves (and those type people end up getting blocked on this forum too). The main reason people like facebook though is not for that ability to remove trolls that never have any decent input, but because they can keep out those that disagree with them. Of course few are going to admit that but it is the truth none the less. Pretty weak IMO.
For all the downfalls of having to deal with some idiots, a forum such as this where things for the most part can be debated openly and without much censorship is far superior. It leads to better more honest information and discussion. Not to mention the access to old threads and ability to search etc is much superior. But if you like to be in the land of the "yes men" instead of a place with open and honest discussion where people can and will disagree and debate, then facebook would definitely be the place for you.
What is that?
Aloha....yeah, it's me, the guy with the shopping advice.....
I had to google Summer's Eve.....
...any guy who didn't have to google it....is probably confused about which toilet to use.
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Only AFTER you started in on me. AFTER.....not before....and then when we had a drink together at DCC we agreed to let it all be water under the bridge and I held up my end long after you got to AZB. Even when you started up again with the snide remarks and the insults I tried to be cool and joke with you but you could not have that.
Some people are simply beyond redemption. As much as I believe that most people have some good in them....I think you have very little that is good in you.
Oh, I think you have some....a few people have come forward and said you have done right by them....but when it comes to online pool discussion you have to be the alpha male "only I know how to get good at pool" type who won't even entertain for a second that anyone else anywhere could possibly come up with a different way to approach the game that has any validity if you didn't already know about and approve of it.
That's the basic problem of "Lou" and pool forums. The other problem is the fact that you embellish your pool stories quite liberally. You blend fiction and fact and twist them until you are likely convinced in your mind that what you are saying is only fact. And no, this isn't just about things you have said about me or the John/Lou dynamic....many others have had to call you out on your "perspective" of events where you wove a beautifully written but ultimately false narrative of events with you as the central character.
You are a good player. A hundred ball runner is respectable. I looked at our match and you play well and have a very nice stroke. That said you're still a super nobody in pool just like me and you ultimately don't know any more about how to play and how to become a good player than I or anyone else our speed does. Therefore your defamatory attacks on others throughout the years simply because they wanted to explore other methods of approaching the game has been despicable.
Where you could have been a force for good and someone who could have lent experience towards finding common ground you instead chose to be antagonistic and defamatory while putting yourself on a pedestal. As you admitted you enjoy the verbal jousting and where would the fun be in agreement. Unlike you I am NOT interested in argument and I am NOT interested in defaming people to get a rise out of them. I am interested in learning more about this wonderful game and finding common ground with everyone who spends time studying it.
Anything that detracts from that stalls progress and worse puts it in reverse. You have unfortunately been a willful obstacle to discovery and learning by trolling for arguments. Now, with most of the targets of your derision gone you can hold court over those left and impress the new members with your word craft.
As a former government public relations officer you are fully aware of the power of words to the right audience at the right moment. When no one speaks up in dissent a well crafted message is taken as gospel. Some of us however are still here, we remember how it really was, and I personally will not let you "spin" the message without challenge whenever I happen to catch you telling a "story".
Um, no. The best advice I got right before the match regarding the money was this: "when the money is posted forget it, it is gone. Just focus on the game and play the best you can" - said to me by a bonafide CHAMPION.
So when the 10k was posted, it WAS gone. I put that money into play and had I won I would have doubled it and losing it means that money that didn't hurt was spent.
Yes, it was a lot of money. Yes I felt some pressure about the amount despite the advice given (by a man who has literally bet millions on pool during his career). But the money isn't anything but a memory. I'd offer to play you for $100,000 if I had it to bet freely with.
What drives me batshit is that I could have beaten you easily and I dogged it on my mental game, worse than I even realized it. I should have scheduled it for a different time and been mentally and physically ready. I don't care that you won the match, you could not stop yourself from winning the match when I pretty much spotted you half the set. I am more upset at myself than anything and not at all upset with you and your hustling crew. It took a team of you to jerk me around for five months and it paid off as I was entirely predictable spending too much time on here and not enough on the table.
The game count between us stands at 10-8 lifetime. We have played 18 games of one pocket and you, the hundred ball runner, are just two games ahead of me, the case maker. I dogged a set and lost 10k and stand ready to spot you for 20k. But I don't care if you ever play because my world doesn't include you unless I happen to come to AZB once in a while and see you spinning a tale that needs some correction.
Otherwise you, are literally lou-who not even as important as gum on my shoe.
Aloha....yeah, it's me, the guy with the shopping advice.....
I had to google Summer's Eve.....
...any guy who didn't have to google it....is probably confused about which toilet to use.
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Lou and John, are you guys 4 years old? If so you shouldn't be on a computer without adult supervision.
If you are older than that, you both should just stop, life is to short to carry that heavy of a load.
10-4?
Lou Figueroa
Please, John, save all that. You calling Eric's work place attempting to cause him trouble; your obscene email to me; scaring Mike's mom with a phone call to his house; nearly getting into a brawl moments before our match; threatening to call the IRS on me for a 1099.
Spin all of that.
Lou Figueroa
All things considered, I do apologize for the hijack and will not be responding to any more JB baloney in this thread. He knows he can have a shot at his $10k in St. Louis however the window on that opportunity is closing.
Lou Figueroa
over and out
All things considered, I do apologize for the hijack and will not be responding to any more JB baloney in this thread. He knows he can have a shot at his $10k in St. Louis however the window on that opportunity is closing.
Lou Figueroa
over and out
Since it bothers you enough to post about it (instead of just merrily skipping along) I will respectfully point out the Ignore function is your friend.
Udder than that, thank you for your interest in national defense.
Lou Figueroa
no load here