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10-4?

Lou Figueroa

Think he asked for 10-4 or 10-5 from me or something crazy like that. I'd like to believe he was not being serious though. HOWEVER, I would actually entertain trying that with HEAVY odds on the money by the game!
 
oh come on, John. You were a wild man back on RSB too. Including the time you sent me an email that used a common four letter word as a verb, adjective, and noun in one short, pity sentence, as in: "F*** you, you f***ing, f***."

Lou Figueroa

Only AFTER you started in on me. AFTER.....not before....and then when we had a drink together at DCC we agreed to let it all be water under the bridge and I held up my end long after you got to AZB. Even when you started up again with the snide remarks and the insults I tried to be cool and joke with you but you could not have that.

Some people are simply beyond redemption. As much as I believe that most people have some good in them....I think you have very little that is good in you.

Oh, I think you have some....a few people have come forward and said you have done right by them....but when it comes to online pool discussion you have to be the alpha male "only I know how to get good at pool" type who won't even entertain for a second that anyone else anywhere could possibly come up with a different way to approach the game that has any validity if you didn't already know about and approve of it.

That's the basic problem of "Lou" and pool forums. The other problem is the fact that you embellish your pool stories quite liberally. You blend fiction and fact and twist them until you are likely convinced in your mind that what you are saying is only fact. And no, this isn't just about things you have said about me or the John/Lou dynamic....many others have had to call you out on your "perspective" of events where you wove a beautifully written but ultimately false narrative of events with you as the central character.

You are a good player. A hundred ball runner is respectable. I looked at our match and you play well and have a very nice stroke. That said you're still a super nobody in pool just like me and you ultimately don't know any more about how to play and how to become a good player than I or anyone else our speed does. Therefore your defamatory attacks on others throughout the years simply because they wanted to explore other methods of approaching the game has been despicable.

Where you could have been a force for good and someone who could have lent experience towards finding common ground you instead chose to be antagonistic and defamatory while putting yourself on a pedestal. As you admitted you enjoy the verbal jousting and where would the fun be in agreement. Unlike you I am NOT interested in argument and I am NOT interested in defaming people to get a rise out of them. I am interested in learning more about this wonderful game and finding common ground with everyone who spends time studying it.

Anything that detracts from that stalls progress and worse puts it in reverse. You have unfortunately been a willful obstacle to discovery and learning by trolling for arguments. Now, with most of the targets of your derision gone you can hold court over those left and impress the new members with your word craft.

As a former government public relations officer you are fully aware of the power of words to the right audience at the right moment. When no one speaks up in dissent a well crafted message is taken as gospel. Some of us however are still here, we remember how it really was, and I personally will not let you "spin" the message without challenge whenever I happen to catch you telling a "story".
 
lol, none of that matters. Still:

Lou:1
John: a big fat ZERO

Lou Figueroa
knows that drives
John batshit :-)

Um, no. The best advice I got right before the match regarding the money was this: "when the money is posted forget it, it is gone. Just focus on the game and play the best you can" - said to me by a bonafide CHAMPION.

So when the 10k was posted, it WAS gone. I put that money into play and had I won I would have doubled it and losing it means that money that didn't hurt was spent.

Yes, it was a lot of money. Yes I felt some pressure about the amount despite the advice given (by a man who has literally bet millions on pool during his career). But the money isn't anything but a memory. I'd offer to play you for $100,000 if I had it to bet freely with.

What drives me batshit is that I could have beaten you easily and I dogged it on my mental game, worse than I even realized it. I should have scheduled it for a different time and been mentally and physically ready. I don't care that you won the match, you could not stop yourself from winning the match when I pretty much spotted you half the set. I am more upset at myself than anything and not at all upset with you and your hustling crew. It took a team of you to jerk me around for five months and it paid off as I was entirely predictable spending too much time on here and not enough on the table.

The game count between us stands at 10-8 lifetime. We have played 18 games of one pocket and you, the hundred ball runner, are just two games ahead of me, the case maker. I dogged a set and lost 10k and stand ready to spot you for 20k. But I don't care if you ever play because my world doesn't include you unless I happen to come to AZB once in a while and see you spinning a tale that needs some correction.

Otherwise you, are literally lou-who not even as important as gum on my shoe.
 
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This forum is superior to facebook in every single way but one. And even in that one way only some people see facebook as being superior and others actually see it as just another drawback like all the rest.

And that one way that facebook is better in some people's minds is that you have control over who has access to read or respond to your posts. Essentially you can censor people at your will and get rid of anyone you don't like or agree with or anyone that disagrees with you.

While this certainly has its usefulness, in my opinion it is mostly preferred and used by the people who are afraid of being challenged on something because they are afraid of looking stupid if they are ever caught lying or being wrong. Being able to get rid of trolls isn't the main draw. It is being able to remove anyone that disagrees with you or will call you out when you are lying that is the main draw. They want to be in a place where the only people that can read or respond to what they write are the "yes men" that treat everything they say as gospel and who will never disagree with them (and where you can just get rid of the ones who do). This is one of the reasons why the pros for the most part are only on facebook, so they only have to deal with the "yes men" who will never disagree with them even when they tell an untruth or are wrong about something.

Being able to block who you want does have some benefits when it comes to getting rid of those that never have valuable input and are always just trolling, but those people really are few and far between if we are honest with ourselves (and those type people end up getting blocked on this forum too). The main reason people like facebook though is not for that ability to remove trolls that never have any decent input, but because they can keep out those that disagree with them. Of course few are going to admit that but it is the truth none the less. Pretty weak IMO.

For all the downfalls of having to deal with some idiots, a forum such as this where things for the most part can be debated openly and without much censorship is far superior. It leads to better more honest information and discussion. Not to mention the access to old threads and ability to search etc is much superior. But if you like to be in the land of the "yes men" instead of a place with open and honest discussion where people can and will disagree and debate, then facebook would definitely be the place for you.

My favorite post in this thread....
 
What is that?

Aloha....yeah, it's me, the guy with the shopping advice.....:)
I had to google Summer's Eve.....
...any guy who didn't have to google it....is probably confused about which toilet to use.
:eek:
 
Aloha....yeah, it's me, the guy with the shopping advice.....:)
I had to google Summer's Eve.....
...any guy who didn't have to google it....is probably confused about which toilet to use.
:eek:

Hey, buddy. Did I ever tell you about that one Summers eve when I had sex with a girl while she hung from a tree? Well, she was in a wheel......aw, never mind. :thumbup:

P.S. That post by Poolplaya9 was good, wasn't it?

P.S.S. I think ole Nole, there, is gonna turn out alright after all.
 
It would be awesome if fb sponsored a pool tournament. It would be huge for pool to gain publicity and interest. 1mil is peanuts for fb. Only thing is fb has nothing to gain.
 
Only AFTER you started in on me. AFTER.....not before....and then when we had a drink together at DCC we agreed to let it all be water under the bridge and I held up my end long after you got to AZB. Even when you started up again with the snide remarks and the insults I tried to be cool and joke with you but you could not have that.

Some people are simply beyond redemption. As much as I believe that most people have some good in them....I think you have very little that is good in you.

Oh, I think you have some....a few people have come forward and said you have done right by them....but when it comes to online pool discussion you have to be the alpha male "only I know how to get good at pool" type who won't even entertain for a second that anyone else anywhere could possibly come up with a different way to approach the game that has any validity if you didn't already know about and approve of it.

That's the basic problem of "Lou" and pool forums. The other problem is the fact that you embellish your pool stories quite liberally. You blend fiction and fact and twist them until you are likely convinced in your mind that what you are saying is only fact. And no, this isn't just about things you have said about me or the John/Lou dynamic....many others have had to call you out on your "perspective" of events where you wove a beautifully written but ultimately false narrative of events with you as the central character.

You are a good player. A hundred ball runner is respectable. I looked at our match and you play well and have a very nice stroke. That said you're still a super nobody in pool just like me and you ultimately don't know any more about how to play and how to become a good player than I or anyone else our speed does. Therefore your defamatory attacks on others throughout the years simply because they wanted to explore other methods of approaching the game has been despicable.

Where you could have been a force for good and someone who could have lent experience towards finding common ground you instead chose to be antagonistic and defamatory while putting yourself on a pedestal. As you admitted you enjoy the verbal jousting and where would the fun be in agreement. Unlike you I am NOT interested in argument and I am NOT interested in defaming people to get a rise out of them. I am interested in learning more about this wonderful game and finding common ground with everyone who spends time studying it.

Anything that detracts from that stalls progress and worse puts it in reverse. You have unfortunately been a willful obstacle to discovery and learning by trolling for arguments. Now, with most of the targets of your derision gone you can hold court over those left and impress the new members with your word craft.

As a former government public relations officer you are fully aware of the power of words to the right audience at the right moment. When no one speaks up in dissent a well crafted message is taken as gospel. Some of us however are still here, we remember how it really was, and I personally will not let you "spin" the message without challenge whenever I happen to catch you telling a "story".


Please, John, save all that. You calling Eric's work place attempting to cause him trouble; your obscene email to me; scaring Mike's mom with a phone call to his house; nearly getting into a brawl moments before our match; threatening to call the IRS on me for a 1099.

Spin all of that.

Lou Figueroa
 
Um, no. The best advice I got right before the match regarding the money was this: "when the money is posted forget it, it is gone. Just focus on the game and play the best you can" - said to me by a bonafide CHAMPION.

So when the 10k was posted, it WAS gone. I put that money into play and had I won I would have doubled it and losing it means that money that didn't hurt was spent.

Yes, it was a lot of money. Yes I felt some pressure about the amount despite the advice given (by a man who has literally bet millions on pool during his career). But the money isn't anything but a memory. I'd offer to play you for $100,000 if I had it to bet freely with.

What drives me batshit is that I could have beaten you easily and I dogged it on my mental game, worse than I even realized it. I should have scheduled it for a different time and been mentally and physically ready. I don't care that you won the match, you could not stop yourself from winning the match when I pretty much spotted you half the set. I am more upset at myself than anything and not at all upset with you and your hustling crew. It took a team of you to jerk me around for five months and it paid off as I was entirely predictable spending too much time on here and not enough on the table.

The game count between us stands at 10-8 lifetime. We have played 18 games of one pocket and you, the hundred ball runner, are just two games ahead of me, the case maker. I dogged a set and lost 10k and stand ready to spot you for 20k. But I don't care if you ever play because my world doesn't include you unless I happen to come to AZB once in a while and see you spinning a tale that needs some correction.

Otherwise you, are literally lou-who not even as important as gum on my shoe.


You and I (and Jimbo) all know a 1-0 score bores into your skull and drives you nuts. Use whatever nonsensical math you want but when it counted, at the end of the day, for all time: it's still 1-0.

Lou Figueroa
 
Lou and John, are you guys 4 years old? If so you shouldn't be on a computer without adult supervision.

If you are older than that, you both should just stop, life is to short to carry that heavy of a load.
 
Aloha....yeah, it's me, the guy with the shopping advice.....:)
I had to google Summer's Eve.....
...any guy who didn't have to google it....is probably confused about which toilet to use.
:eek:

I had to Google it too. At the very least it should make you question the kind of women you're hanging out with if you knew what that was. But hey, to each his own I guess.
 
Lou and John, are you guys 4 years old? If so you shouldn't be on a computer without adult supervision.

If you are older than that, you both should just stop, life is to short to carry that heavy of a load.


Since it bothers you enough to post about it (instead of just merrily skipping along) I will respectfully point out the Ignore function is your friend.

Udder than that, thank you for your interest in national defense.

Lou Figueroa
no load here
 
All things considered, I do apologize for the hijack and will not be responding to any more JB baloney in this thread. He knows he can have a shot at his $10k in St. Louis however the window on that opportunity is closing.

Lou Figueroa
over and out
 
Please, John, save all that. You calling Eric's work place attempting to cause him trouble; your obscene email to me; scaring Mike's mom with a phone call to his house; nearly getting into a brawl moments before our match; threatening to call the IRS on me for a 1099.

Spin all of that.

Lou Figueroa

More total BS.

1. NEVER called Eric's "work" in any way. He, on the other hand, threatened to call the PSB (China's immigration police) and tell them I was in China illegally. He said, and I quote, "You don't want someone who can navigate a Mandarin-speaking country coming there and going after you." What I did "threaten" to do FOR Eric was to publish all of his online crap so that anyone thinking of allowing him to manage their money and doing their due diligence to look him up would see how he conducts himself, beating up old men, making terroristic threats, threatening to attempt to break up my family, trying to play the race card and claim I addressed him in a racist way.

And the fact that moments before the match he threatened to hit me with a pool ball.

2. Obscene email? If I ever sent you an obscene email then it was far less than you have deserved. You have been obscenely horrendous to myself and others for the past 20 years on these groups. You have no honor whatsoever. The amount of defamation you have criminally perpetrated has been enough to warrant several ass beatings and jail in my opinion....so you're lucky if all you got was an angry email.

3. Did not call Liesomemore's mom to "scare" her. I call the phone number listed for Mike Lalumiere BECAUSE he told everyone on AZB who he is and said we could call him, he pretty dared us to call him. His mother answered and I said I was looking for him and she voluntarily gave me his number. I was ultra polite with his mom as I am with pretty much all strangers and elderly people. So another bald faced lie by Liesomemore. And I know you are reading this Michael Lalumiere.

I called the number that Mike's mom gave me and finally got that coward on the phone. I called to talk things out and see if we could find common ground. I endured 30 minutes of Mike berating me and lecturing me while I remained calm and at the end of it we agreed to let it go and I promised to try and act as he told me I should.

Then not five minutes after we hung up this liar makes a post saying I harassed his mother and pretended to have some important reason to get his phone number. Nothing could be further from the truth.

4. 1099 - please.......that was a PUBLIC JOKE on her because you keep on insisting that YOU have $10,000 in winnings when in reality the truth is you have only a small portion of it. I said I should have given you a 1099 and let you and your "group" and the IRS figure it out. But even so, so what? Did you report the $10,000 winnings on your tax return? I bet you didn't. You claim to be so moral and upstanding and love to play the victim on here..... show us your return where you did the right thing and claimed the extra income.

Everything you write is either a lie or based on a lie. It's actually incredible to see how far you are from the truth and how you just don't seem to care that you lie and that you repeat lies told to you.

What's really funny is that I am actually a very nice guy so it really takes special people to draw vitriol from me. Here is what the actual greatest person on Earth had to say about me last week.
 

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All things considered, I do apologize for the hijack and will not be responding to any more JB baloney in this thread. He knows he can have a shot at his $10k in St. Louis however the window on that opportunity is closing.

Lou Figueroa
over and out

You won't play. Even if I agree to come to STL and play to try to break even you won't play.

So the offer remains, 20k OKC 10 Ahead, One Pocket.

AND - You get 9:8 on my breaks.

So get some vitamins and some heart and come on.
 
All things considered, I do apologize for the hijack and will not be responding to any more JB baloney in this thread. He knows he can have a shot at his $10k in St. Louis however the window on that opportunity is closing.

Lou Figueroa
over and out

Nonsense. You don't care about it. The "hijack" is what turns you on. If you ever cared you would have stayed away from many threads and not spent so much time defaming people.

Plus....it's not a hijack when you are a perfect example of the the OP's inquiry as to why the forum is losing (active) members and interest.
 
Since it bothers you enough to post about it (instead of just merrily skipping along) I will respectfully point out the Ignore function is your friend.

Udder than that, thank you for your interest in national defense.

Lou Figueroa
no load here

One of the few things I do agree with you about. Complaining about something you are voluntarily subjecting yourself to is silly.
 
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