Mosconi Cup table pockets look over 4.5"
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Not just this year. This is every year. It's the cloth.
If they are going to play on cloth that helps the pockets be more accepting they need to make the shelf deeper or the opening smaller. From the middle of the table the pocket is tight. Going down a rail the pocket is way too accepting.
Some of the shots that went in for both sides is truly absurd, im talking about balls bouncing off the second diamond and still going in.
You are doing our country proud. You truly deserve to be there.
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What I'm saying is,
they need 3 Bergmans, 1 Sky and 1 Shane to compete with the Euros.
Did you not watch? Last year Sky and Bergman were there best players too
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Table will definitely play much tougher on the 3rd and 4th day, but for now, the Europeans will bask in their glory of slop ball-pocketing.
That being said, why can't the Americans f$%king run out with ball in hand? Screw the pocket size, or the rails, or the lean of the table, they have failed to run out multiple times with an open table and even with BALL IN HAND and no clusters. C'mon man.
Also, we have yet to win a single lag.
That being said, why can't the Americans f$%king run out with ball in hand? Screw the pocket size, or the rails, or the lean of the table, they have failed to run out multiple times with an open table and even with BALL IN HAND and no clusters. C'mon man.
Also, we have yet to win a single lag.
Yep. Losing the lags have been key. TONNES of hill hill matches matches lost yesterday.
Thanks for the first-hand info! Some of those made balls where pretty tough to take, I think Gray shot a ball with a backwards cut that hit over a diamond up the rail, but went in. Looked like he was playing on a 5" pocket table with a roll towards that pocket LOL
I had crap like that happen to me on a table during a tournament, have not gone there again since. I don't need to see someone miss a shot, then watch it bank 2 rails and slowly roll 4 inches sideways into a pocket.
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I doubt that. The table is only getting 5 races to 5 a day. That thing is going to play brand new every day.
I believe they have their own practice tables.
And, the US shit in balls as well that shouldnt have went in.
It was Gray and it bounced above the 2nd diamond. There is another post on the forum by SE7EN where he created a gif of the shot... not table on the damn planet should accept that ball...
GIF is in the first post of this thread:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=441862
It's every year at the Mosconi Cup. If they are going to play on cloth that makes the pockets that accepting then thhey should make the opening smaller or the shelf deeper.
It is interesting the table talk since they switched to a Rasson Table. That is not a widely used brand in the states but used more in Europe. It will be interesting to see how today goes.
There are a few European brand tables in a pool hall in MA, they play pretty strangely. Not sure exactly why, just weird things happen on them vs the Gold Crowns in the same room.
Did I say it was key? Should the Americans not practice the lag because not every match is guaranteed to go hill-hill?
Winning the lag and getting that first break and run is crucial. It sets the tone and builds your confidence. If you don't think the lag is important, then I'm not sure what to tell you. That wasn't even my main point, you ignored the statement above that.
The Euros aren't winning because they're breaking first. They won most of the racks that the US broke. So...the break hasn't been critical. Also, there were very few dry breaks yesterday. The US team is getting thrashed after the break. They're being outsafed, outpushed, and outkicked.
I ignore most of your posts. The nonsense you post to start threads makes it hard to take you seriously. You're one rung above Justin.
Again, I didn't say the lag is what's causing them to lose, I said "Also, we have yet to win a single lag." It's a minor observation.
However, I do think it is important to win the lag and get that first game of the set.
I do agree with your statement of them getting basically out-played.
And thanks, Justin is my role model when it comes to trolling, only difference is mine is intentional
Why don't you add me to your ignore list?
If the Euros are winning most of US breaks that means US isn't making a ball or losing control over the table..
Seems pretty critical to me.
They have been coming up dry more then the Euros... US seems to be playing a bit more aggressive then the Euros and its hurting them I think because the aggressiveness is causing mistakes (misses or poor position).
9ball is agressive in general, but in such a short race I think you need to be as conservative as possible. Do whatever you need to do that guarantees you get back on the table... dont take a low percentage shot that you need luck for the position.
I dont know... im just a shitty local player and they are the best in the world...
Yep, losing 5-2 with alternate breaks you just need two more mistakes than the other player or two less lucky rolls to make it seem like the game was more one-sided than it was.
US is definietely hurt by their aggression. Always have been.