Dani high precision ticky

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how does he get the cue ball to go more or less straight up and down the rail??
its not a reverse the rail shot instead of a tikki??
 

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how does he get the cue ball to go more or less straight up and down the rail??
its not a reverse the rail shot instead of a tikki??

generally thats how the ticky is shot, rail ball rail rail ball

double rail generally 3 rails, into the ball much harder to go ball, double rail, then back for the last,

but i see why you could think that
 

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generally thats how the ticky is shot, rail ball rail rail ball

double rail generally 3 rails, into the ball much harder to go ball, double rail, then back for the last,

but i see why you could think that

usually i have seen the cue ball go OUT from the rail after a tikki
never straight
must have used a heck of alot of inside follow??
 

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usually i have seen the cue ball go OUT from the rail after a tikki
never straight
must have used a heck of alot of inside follow??

Usually yes,

Here is Frederics post and video he made about this shot,


I had the chance to explain this shot some time ago, of course this is much more difficult during an official game because you only get one chance. Also the shot is easier on a small distance (short cushion). Dani made it look very easy
https://www.dropbox.com/s/a4cvweq74yktsb4/17829342_218292991990163_166824376681889792_n.mp4?dl=0
 

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to me a true tikki is ba boom ba boom
meaning rail ball (ba boom ) rail away (ba boom )
this shot to me is a rail first force follow
please comment so i can learn
:)
still a great shot :thumbup:
i wish they had an emoticom that showed deference to a master
 

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Even Bert commented that he himself had never seen this shot

The more I think about it though your kind of getting through to me, it seems more like so force follow double the rail than what we think of generally of ticky shots, no matter how many variants of them there are
 

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Even Bert commented that he himself had never seen this shot

The more I think about it though your kind of getting through to me, it seems more like so force follow double the rail than what we think of generally of ticky shots, no matter how many variants of them there are
as usual richard you and i trying to learn but so few help us out (thanks 3kushnm for your reponse)
 

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as usual richard you and i trying to learn but so few help us out (thanks 3kushnm for your reponse)

With so little time I have to play even with a table at home
I just make sure enjoy the time I get to play
I can't really get quality enough time to focus and do some serious practice
 

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to me a true tikki is ba boom ba boom
meaning rail ball (ba boom ) rail away (ba boom )
this shot to me is a rail first force follow
please comment so i can learn
:)
still a great shot :thumbup:
i wish they had an emoticom that showed deference to a master

:bow-down::bow-down::bow-down:

pt....professional emoticon consultant
 

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I was shown this shot over 50 years ago by my mentor, Ernie Presto.

The distance the OB needs to be from the 1st cushion is about 1/3 the diameter of the OB! The shot really is a, 'Cushion first force-follow!' The cushion compresses from the CB being struck pretty firm with in this case, extreme 11 O'clock English (reverse English). It's actually easy to get 4 or 5 cushions on this shot, as the CB tries to fight back to the long rail from the force-follow action on the CB!
 
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bbb

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to me a true tikki is ba boom ba boom
meaning rail ball (ba boom ) rail away (ba boom )
this shot to me is a rail first force follow
please comment so i can learn
:)
still a great shot :thumbup:
i wish they had an emoticom that showed deference to a master

I was shown this shot over 50 years ago by my mentor, Ernie Presto.

The distance the OB needs to be from the 1st cushion is about 1/3 the diameter of the OB! The shot really is a, 'Cushion first force-follow!' The cushion compresses from the CB being struck pretty firm with in this case, extreme 11 O'clock English (reverse English). It's actually easy to get 4 or 5 cushions on this shot, as the CB tries to fight back to the long rail from the force-follow action on the CB!

thanks for the explanation bill
reassuring to me i wasnt far off....:)
 

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I enjoyed Bert's comment



"Someone recently said to me: "The number of ways in which you can make 3-cushion points is obviously not endless, it's limited. Haven't you seen them all by now?" I told him that the number of ways you can make 3-cushion points is equal to the ways in which a woman can be beautiful. You can find a new one every day, if you just keep your eyes open. That sort of shut him up"
 

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I was shown this shot over 50 years ago by my mentor, Ernie Presto.

The distance the OB needs to be from the 1st cushion is about 1/3 the diameter of the OB! The shot really is a, 'Cushion first force-follow!' The cushion compresses from the CB being struck pretty firm with in this case, extreme 11 O'clock English (reverse English). It's actually easy to get 4 or 5 cushions on this shot, as the CB tries to fight back to the long rail from the force-follow action on the CB!

As Ernie was from a different era ( no heated tables , nap cloth etc. ) what was his average ?
 

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As Ernie was from a different era ( no heated tables , nap cloth etc. ) what was his average ?

In his prime, which would be in the 40's - 50's, around .775.

He played every World Champion from Alfredo de Oro to Raymond Ceulemans.

He fondest memory and claim is that He played Willie Hoppe 25 times, and lost in the 1 hole to Him once!
 

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As Ernie was from a different era ( no heated tables , nap cloth etc. ) what was his average ?

Heated tables have been around for a fee hundred yrs
First electricly heated was used in 1927 in the us, other manners of heating were used before then

So sayeth the Wikipedia
But no so certain how wide spread it would have been in the following 20-30 yrs
 
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