Dealing with pool players can be ridiculous: your opinion on my pool table sale

jalapus logan

jalapus logan

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Howdy fellas. I kinda feel a bit pissed about the oral terms of my pool table sale. Long story short, I've agreed to sell my valley bar box to a fella on my BCAPL team for $XXX (not a sum of money I'm really concerned about). He was interested and I wanted to help out a fellow pool player and teammate by giving him a deal I knew was under priced for the market (I'm a softy when it comes to broke D$#% pool players). He says that he wants it, but wants to make installment payments on a weekly basis and when its paid off we agreed he would take posession of the table. No money has ever been forthcoming, so I forgot about it all. That was several months ago...

Fast forward to yesterday: he calls me up and says that he still wants to "buy" the table, the only thing is that he is gonna "let" his friend buy it for a higher price, pay me the original price we had negotiated and then pocket the difference as his profit. I'm calling bullshit on this one and feel kinda pissed off.

Am I out of bounds for feeling pissed? Would I technically be reneging on a deal? I feel betrayed frankly. I guess no good deed goes unpunished???

Part of me just wants to go ahead with it and get it out of my hair (upcoming home move in a year or so).

Opinions???
 
I think the numbers are important here. What is the Vally BB worth and want are you going to get for it. I’ve seen Valleys go cheap and sometimes hard to get rid off. If you don’t like the deal, get out.
 
Why is it when a pool player acts the fool, all pool players are lumped together?

and...I would have told the guy to go jump in the lake.
 
I definitely feel where you are coming from here. It's happened to all of us.

The lesson is: Don't cheat yourself to do someone a favor. It will almost always bite you.

You could tell him to jump in a lake and sell it to someone else for what you can get for it.

You could tell him you'll split the difference between the higher price and the price you gave him.

You could sell it for the original price and be glad to get rid of it.
 
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pocket said:
Why is it when a pool player acts the fool, all pool players are lumped together?

and...I would have told the guy to go jump in the lake.
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Unfortunately, they get lumped together because of too many bad actors. You've heard the joke:

What's the difference between a pool player and a large pizza? A large pizza can feed a family of four...lol

Oh yeah, what do you call a pool player that doesn't have a wife or girlfriend??? Homeless.:eek:

I didn't make that stuff up...truth in jest I'm afraid.

Anyway, I'm on the fence here. Thanks for your responses.
 
jalapus logan said:
Howdy fellas. I kinda feel a bit pissed about the oral terms of my pool table sale. Long story short, I've agreed to sell my valley bar box to a fella on my BCAPL team for $XXX (not a sum of money I'm really concerned about). He was interested and I wanted to help out a fellow pool player and teammate by giving him a deal I knew was under priced for the market (I'm a softy when it comes to broke D$#% pool players). He says that he wants it, but wants to make installment payments on a weekly basis and when its paid off we agreed he would take posession of the table. No money has ever been forthcoming, so I forgot about it all. That was several months ago...

Fast forward to yesterday: he calls me up and says that he still wants to "buy" the table, the only thing is that he is gonna "let" his friend buy it for a higher price, pay me the original price we had negotiated and then pocket the difference as his profit. I'm calling bullshit on this one and feel kinda pissed off.

Am I out of bounds for feeling pissed? Would I technically be reneging on a deal? I feel betrayed frankly. I guess no good deed goes unpunished???

Part of me just wants to go ahead with it and get it out of my hair (upcoming home move in a year or so).

Opinions???
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Don't feel bad about yourself. Tell the guy exactly how you feel about the situation, do not sell the table to him and wipe him off your list of friends. Forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
jalapus logan said:
Unfortunately, they get lumped together because of too many bad actors. You've heard the joke:

What's the difference between a pool player and a large pizza? A large pizza can feed a family of four...lol

Oh yeah, what do you call a pool player that doesn't have a wife or girlfriend??? Homeless.:eek:

I didn't make that stuff up...truth in jest I'm afraid.

Anyway, I'm on the fence here. Thanks for your responses.
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Tell him to pound sand J.
 
I guess I'm just surprised that anyone would be so bold as to even tell me his plans, lol. Just not how my mama raised me, lol.
 
I sold a $650 pool cue to a friend for $175, with the condition that he would use the cue himself and that he wouldn't just flip the cue right away and make a profit.

Well, he did use it for most of the year, but eventually traded it in for a more expensive cue. Then after that he kept asking me if I have any more cues that he can buy from me. LOL

At that point I just told him that my policy was only ONE screaming good deal per person. So I know exactly what you mean by your "friend" trying to take advantage of you. Some people have no shame.
 
mchnhed said:
Have him “split” the profit with you.
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I did do this once too. I basically gave a jump break cue to a friend, since I never planned on using it, with the one rule that if he or his wife didn't like it and sold it, that they would give me half the money.

Well, the guy tells me that it was too light and his wife didn't like it either. That's it. Never asked again and never saw either one ever use it. That cue I did win in a raffle, so it didn't cost me anything.
 
He is out of line, but at least not sneaky about it. Depends on what your plans are for a future association with this guy. You can explain that you were selling under value to him only. To help him shoot better and to help out the team. You could split it( probably what I would do) or just let him know you don’t appreciate him f ing around and getting in to your pocket.
 
jalapus logan said:
Fast forward to yesterday: he calls me up and says that he still wants to "buy" the table, the only thing is that he is gonna "let" his friend buy it for a higher price, pay me the original price we had negotiated and then pocket the difference as his profit.
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If he was kind enough to name his friend I'd cut out the middle man and sell it to him direct.... Provided he has cash and doesn't need to make payments of course
 
jalapus logan said:
I guess I'm just surprised that anyone would be so bold as to even tell me his plans, lol. Just not how my mama raised me, lol.
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I actually respect that he told you.

He's a user of people and a shameless exploiter of situations. You've learned that now, and that is worth something. It's up to you if it is worth the bath you'd take on the table.

My uncle told me a story when I was 12 about loaning a friend $500 in the '70's. Said the guy never paid him back. I told my uncle that he must have been pretty angry about it. Unc replied that he wasn't angry at all, it was worth $500 to find out what kind of person the guy was.
 
Best thing that ever happened to me was loaning a real good friend money when I was just starting working serious.Of course I got stiffed.My Dad said he didn't stop me from doing it so he could save me thousands later.We joke about it now to this day and that cheap $300 lesson has saved me so much money in the long run.Always charge full price because you are always going to get full grief......And any loan I ever make is a gift I never expect back.Give no more than you are willing to give away.
 
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Another vote for: Your friend has quite the balls to take advantage of you, and that includes the assumption that a month's old deal is still valid.
 
Keep it. Play it for the next year or so until you move. Even if you give it away at that time, you will be ahead, IMO.
 
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