Well, my first two thoughts were Black and JW and one of those has been ruled out lol
Cue ID Please!!
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Yep, the problem with Black is that he did not do that era cue with that type of forearm. Also, if he ever did that double barbell in the buttsleeve, he didn't fill in the space with lighter wood. He also didn't do 18 thread pins. His "Mando" cue does resemble this a bit, but it's obviously not a Black.
The problem with JW is also, he didn't do that type of forearm, darker wood, with a window buttsleeve cue. Also, in that era, those were not Bill's joint pin, or shaft rings.
Adam has been mentioned. It's a possibility, but it would have been a custom order, not one of Helmstetter's standard designs. And although the nose and joint pin looks a bit Adam, the points would be questionable. Closer views would be good.
All the best,
WW
Who gave a positive cuemaker in 5 seconds?
And, for your information, it's not a Tillis.
All the best,
WW
That's not the Joss 18-pin, different top. The buttsleeve may be from a Joss but the way the inlays are cut is really abnormal for Joss.
There's no picture showing the very top of the pin, not sure what you're referring to. The OP's picture of the pin is cut off at the top.
Not to jump to conclusions, but as for the inlays, they are consistent with Joss window style cues of the late 60s to mid 70s. They were all around the Baltimore area in that time. I was there.
Still trying to get this to be a $450 Adam? Well, show us a picture of another Adam like it.
All the best,
WW
Not exactly what I said WW. I believe I said "Leaned Towards" and I meant as an initial thought. I could pretty much say in my mind when I first saw the picture, my mind said "Hey that looks an old Joss West." Perhaps my comment wasn't well phrased. The point was, the design aspects of certain era cues allow us to almost immediately "lean" towards certain makers with a high degree of accuracy generally speaking. It was a compliment...not a jab.
Thank you for the note on it not being a Tillis. As I stated, I have only seen 1 ever come in for repair and at that time, I didn't make any real time investment in noting the construction. Hindsight is often 20/20 I suppose.
On another note, does the weight bolt look like a 5/16-18 or am I seeing it wrong?
More than likely, 3/8 X 16. And definitely steel, rather than aluminum.
All the best,
WW
If this is not an early Joss, I like Tad. He liked to copy people back in the day, used 5/16-18 pins. Also the ring above the wrap not being centered, I have seen a few Tads with that.
Who knows... nice mystery.
JV
Who knows... nice mystery.
JV
Not a bad theory Joe. As far as off-centering the ring above the wrap, Dan and Bill did that as well, I suspect largely to make point separations ideal, overall length, and a host of other reasons. That occurred in the buttsleeve as well, many times.
All the best,
WW
