78 run in 1 cushion

Poodle of Doom said:
So basically, he had to hit a ball, and have his cue ball go to a rail, then hit the second ball. Not go to a rail first, and then hit both balls. Right?
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you can go rail first into both of course


the only thing that matters is have to touch a rail before the third ball is hit

you dont HAVE to make a point by ball rail ball
there are several ways to score
 
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Texas Carom Club said:
the only thing that matters is have to touch a rail before the third ball is hit
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So, you're basically telling me that I was right? Because the cue goes to a rail, then strikes the red, then off white, and no rail?

I say this, because the way I learned to play one cushion is exactly as the rules I quoted above have stated. You must strike the first ball (red or off white), hit a rail, then strike the third ball (red or off white) that you hadn't yet struck.

Perhaps I'm reading things funny and was taught wrong? This is a game that I haven't played, save for maybe once or twice.

EDIT: Just noticed your edit after posting. The rules I quoted are wrong then?
 
Poodle of Doom said:
So, you're basically telling me that I was right? Because the cue goes to a rail, then strikes the red, then off white, and no rail?

I say this, because the way I learned to play one cushion is exactly as the rules I quoted above have stated. You must strike the first ball (red or off white), hit a rail, then strike the third ball (red or off white) that you hadn't yet struck.

Perhaps I'm reading things funny and was taught wrong? This is a game that I haven't played, save for maybe once or twice.
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i dont know where you were taught this, but no im telling you your wrong,
you can bank into 2 balls

do you think frederic caudron would do it if itwere not legal?

https://youtu.be/7UtWAwvD0vw?t=51
 
ok so lets not look to virtual pool for rule sets lol

i see the wicapedia link, that must have been how it was played back then, so i understand where your coming from

but its not vaild in modern caroms
 
Texas Carom Club said:
ok so lets not look to virtual pool for rule sets lol

i see the wicapedia link, that must have been how it was played back then, so i understand where your coming from

but its not vaild in modern caroms
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He didn't do it there. The red appears to come off the rail prior to his cue striking his opponents cue ball. This satisfies rule number two under, valid shots, of the first set of rules I quoted to you. I think I'm still right.
 
Poodle of Doom said:
He didn't do it there. The red appears to come off the rail prior to his cue striking his opponents cue ball. This satisfies rule number two under, valid shots, of the first set of rules I quoted to you. I think I'm still right.
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no your still wrong

you do not need to hit a rail with an object ball, your over thinking this i think


i watch of alot of this, and its a common point, even when both balls are off the rail, we will bank into both and its good
 
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Texas Carom Club said:
current carom UMB rule set

http://www.umb-carom.org/AP/cm/PG54L2/Union-Mondiale-de-Billard.aspx


D - Cushion gamesArt. 81 - Definition 82 - One cushion
As far as one cushion is concerned the cue-ball must have come into contact with at least one cushion before touching the second object-ball if not there will be a foul. (indicated by "no cushion")
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The rules you quoted up above don't explicitly state when the first object ball has to be struck. Seems a little ambiguous. I'm fairly sure that even in the three cushion matched I've watch that they had to go three rails before contacting the second target ball.

Whatever though, rules change over the years. And I haven't played in a long time.
 
Poodle of Doom said:
The rules you quoted up above don't explicitly state when the first object ball has to be struck. Seems a little ambiguous. I'm fairly sure that even in the three cushion matched I've watch that they had to go three rails before contacting the second target ball.
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i agree it is a tad ambigous for people unfamiliar with caroms
as i said there are several ways

3 rails minimum before hitting second ball, and there are more ways to do this in 3c
it DOES NOT HAVE TO BE ball 3rails ball

the last world cup in ho chi min was won on a 3 rail bank into both balls
a superb match and electric finish


heres the link

https://www.facebook.com/confederacionpanamericanadebillar/videos/2004405519632857/
 
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Poodle of Doom said:
The rules you quoted up above don't explicitly state when the first object ball has to be struck. Seems a little ambiguous. I'm fairly sure that even in the three cushion matched I've watch that they had to go three rails before contacting the second target ball.

Whatever though, rules change over the years. And I haven't played in a long time.
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You are wrong about the rules. In both one cushion and three cushion the rule is the same. To score a point the cue ball must contact at least the requisite number of rails prior to hitting the second object ball. The order in which the cue ball contacts the first object ball and the requisite number of rails (or more) is irrelevant. As is any contact between an object ball and a rail.
 
Texas Carom Club said:
not at all, im clearing out any of the dis information you may imprint on others
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Disinformation? I'm fairly sure I started that with a question. Lets look:

Poodle of Doom said:
Wait a second?

https://youtu.be/cneurCFfwn0?t=108

At 1:48 in, I don't think that was a valid shot. Or was it? Had to look it up, and this is what I found:

http://vponline.celeris.com/support/rules/id/26

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carom_billiards#Cushion_caroms

So basically, he had to hit a ball, and have his cue ball go to a rail, then hit the second ball. Not go to a rail first, and then hit both balls. Right?
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Yep, did the double take. Even asked if it was a valid shot. And clarified my position by pointing out where I got the information, along with supporting points, and then asked if I was right. All along, this was just a question. At that, lets look at my next post:

Poodle of Doom said:
So, you're basically telling me that I was right? Because the cue goes to a rail, then strikes the red, then off white, and no rail?

I say this, because the way I learned to play one cushion is exactly as the rules I quoted above have stated. You must strike the first ball (red or off white), hit a rail, then strike the third ball (red or off white) that you hadn't yet struck.

Perhaps I'm reading things funny and was taught wrong? This is a game that I haven't played, save for maybe once or twice.

EDIT: Just noticed your edit after posting. The rules I quoted are wrong then?
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Even then, I sought clarification. And made no stipulation in regards to the validity of anything I said. At which point you auto-blasted three separate posts on the subject, instead of just tackling it all in one.

Say whatever you're going to say, but please don't spin what I've said.
 
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