How does the poolhall(s) you play most at deal with bangers?

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I ask this because I am curious how many places allow things like jump shots, legal ones that is and masses that require the cue raiseed well above the shoulder. Neither of these are allowed. I have a jump cue but rarely if ever use it because jump shots are not allowed. Is this common?

The place I play at, Romines in Milwaukee has its regular, a lot of great players but with over 50 tables it's mostly bangers after 7pm.

How does you place of play compare?






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I'd imagine most pool halls that want to stay in business CATER to the "bangers" because REAL pool players don't spend money.
 
I ask this because I am curious how many places allow things like jump shots, legal ones that is and masses that require the cue raiseed well above the shoulder. Neither of these are allowed. I have a jump cue but rarely if ever use it because jump shots are not allowed. Is this common?
The place I play at, Romines in Milwaukee has its regular, a lot of great players but with over 50 tables it's mostly bangers after 7pm.
How does you place of play compare?
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I am the mechanic at Racktime here in Toledo and I also play league there. They allow it. There are really no "bangers" in there tryin to jump if they don't know how. Cloth holds up really well for how much play the tables get.

Trent from Toledo
 
I'd imagine most pool halls that want to stay in business CATER to the "bangers" because REAL pool players don't spend money.
Calling it catering to bangers doesn't sound right. It's making sure bangers don't wreck the cloth.

Catering to the real pool players would allow them to use the equipment we buy.

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I am the mechanic at Racktime here in Toledo and I also play league there. They allow it. There are really no "bangers" in there tryin to jump if they don't know how. Cloth holds up really well for how much play the tables get.

Trent from Toledo
Romines puts new cloth on once a year, usually right before fall leagues start. The owners always been kind of a hard one to please.

I know opening a pool hall especially in the wrong city is a risky business but I always dreamed of it and wondered how I would allow things like jump shots and masses but keep the bangers from wrecking things.

I agree though, the cloth, in our case Simomis 860 is pretty durable.

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Calling it catering to bangers doesn't sound right. It's making sure bangers don't wreck the cloth.

Catering to the real pool players would allow them to use the equipment we buy.

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I think if you are playing league and know the people who run the place there should be no problem.

We have 3 rooms in town, 2 cater to recreational players and do very well $$$. The other is a players room and is a good community, but, does no where near the $$$.

Trent from Toledo
 
If playing league, tournaments, or any competitive match, you gotta let em jump. If a guy comes in and pays table time to practice, give him an old patch of cloth and tell him to use it. I always ask before jumping at somebody else’s place
 
East Ridge Billiards in Rochester, NY uses Simonis 860 HR cloth on all 20 tables. Cloth is changed on an "as necessary" basis. NO jump cues or masse' shots are allowed. By anyone. Most all cloth damage is caused by careless customers and the beverages they spill. Cost of doing business.

Lyn
 
I have mellowed out quite a bit over the 22+ years I've been running our poolroom. I have just come to accept many things I didn't used to, as I can't afford to run off customers, and I realize we just don't have the kind of poolroom that has knowledgeable players. A very large percentage our our customers are families with kids and even adult players who have played very little, if ever. They don't really know better what is and what isn't cool to do in a poolroom, and what kind of actions can cause harm to the table/cloth. I feel it is my job to inform them of these things, but it must be handled very delicately, as a negative experience may result in them never coming back.

It's obviously much harder to bite my tongue just after I've spent $450 per table having our tables re-covered. Two things I absolutely will not tolerate - players who dig under the ball as their only clue as to how to execute a jump shot, and recreational players who elevate their cues to show off their attempt at a masse shot, when they are absolutely clueless as to what they are doing.

In either case, I will immediately approach the table and the player, and discreetly, but firmly, let them know we do not allow that here, that it will damage the cloth on the tables, and to please refrain from doing it. If it is a kid and they are with their parents, I will approach the parent directly to explain, and not reprimand their child right in front of them. Most people are very nice and understanding, as long as you treat them with respect and you don't make a scene and embarrass them.

However, you just can't please everybody. Recently, when we last had our tables recovered, a man and his teenage son who come in occasionally were wrapping up their play. In the process of getting the balls back in the tray. I looked down and the son was gouging under the object balls with his cue, trying to get them to jump up and land in the tray. After seeing he wasn't just going to do it a few times, but was continuing to do it numerous times until he had them all in the tray, which clearly would have done major damage to our new cloth, I flickered the pool table light to get their attention from the bar, and shook my head and simply said you can't do that. When he got to the counter with the balls to check out, the man was so upset feeling that I had completely embarrassed his son and and he imformed me that he would never be coming back. I tried to explain to him what his son was doing could damage the cloth, and his comment was that his son was doing it very easily and carefully, in order to not damage the cloth. Some people just don't get it. Anyway, I got my point across, but I did apologize to him if my actions had embarrassed his son, and they do still come in.
 
I have mellowed out quite a bit over the 22+ years I've been running our poolroom. I have just come to accept many things I didn't used to, as I can't afford to run off customers, and I realize we just don't have the kind of poolroom that has knowledgeable players. A very large percentage our our customers are families with kids and even adult players who have played very little, if ever. They don't really know better what is and what isn't cool to do in a poolroom, and what kind of actions can cause harm to the table/cloth. I feel it is my job to inform them of these things, but it must be handled very delicately, as a negative experience may result in them never coming back.
It's obviously much harder to bite my tongue just after I've spent $450 per table having our tables re-covered. Two things I absolutely will not tolerate - players who dig under the ball as their only clue as to how to execute a jump shot, and recreational players who elevate their cues to show off their attempt at a masse shot, when they are absolutely clueless as to what they are doing.
In either case, I will immediately approach the table and the player, and discreetly, but firmly, let them know we do not allow that here, that it will damage the cloth on the tables, and to please refrain from doing it. If it is a kid and they are with their parents, I will approach the parent directly to explain, and not reprimand their child right in front of them. Most people are very nice and understanding, as long as you treat them with respect and you don't make a scene and embarrass them.
However, you just can't please everybody. Recently, when we last had our tables recovered, a man and his teenage son who come in occasionally were wrapping up their play. In the process of getting the balls back in the tray. I looked down and the son was gouging under the object balls with his cue, trying to get them to jump up and land in the tray. After seeing he wasn't just going to do it a few times, but was continuing to do it numerous times until he had them all in the tray, which clearly would have done major damage to our new cloth, I flickered the pool table light to get their attention from the bar, and shook my head and simply said you can't do that. When he got to the counter with the balls to check out, the man was so upset feeling that I had completely embarrassed his son and and he imformed me that he would never be coming back. I tried to explain to him what his son was doing could damage the cloth, and his comment was that his son was doing it very easily and carefully, in order to not damage the cloth. Some people just don't get it. Anyway, I got my point across, but I did apologize to him if my actions had embarrassed his son, and they do still come in.
You owed nobody an apology.
It's your place and your equipment. The customers are paying guests...nothing more.
The man is an idiot for not taking his son to task himself. And the son sounds like a self centered brat....regardless of his age.
Over the long run.......it will happen again, from the same pair. Watch and see.
Happy trails........
 
You owed nobody an apology.
It's your place and your equipment. The customers are paying guests...nothing more.
The man is an idiot for not taking his son to task himself. And the son sounds like a self centered brat....regardless of his age.
Over the long run.......it will happen again, from the same pair. Watch and see.
Happy trails........

My thoughts exactly!! Inexcusable that the father didn't correct his son immediately. The kid needed to be embarrassed.
 
You owed nobody an apology.
It's your place and your equipment. The customers are paying guests...nothing more.
The man is an idiot for not taking his son to task himself. And the son sounds like a self centered brat....regardless of his age.
Over the long run.......it will happen again, from the same pair. Watch and see.
Happy trails........
Agree 100000%. We used to have this self-proclaimed trick-shot "artist" come in and star jumping, curving, all kinds of stupid s^&t. Well, as you can well imagine it didn't take long for this moron to be sent on his way. That kid's dad is as big an idiot as he is. You won't miss them if they never return.
 
If playing league, tournaments, or any competitive match, you gotta let em jump. If a guy comes in and pays table time to practice, give him an old patch of cloth and tell him to use it. I always ask before jumping at somebody else’s place

You've stated it well. At the club I play at, it's not the casual players jumping and masse-ing, it's regulars that think they are masters at it lol. With bangers what I see is problems more like drinks on the table, eating food while playing, swinging sticks around -- that sort of thing.
 
My thoughts exactly!! Inexcusable that the father didn't correct his son immediately. The kid needed to be embarrassed.
You and I know that - just common sense. Sadly, for someone who doesn't know the game like we do, they just see it differently and don't understand.

For our poolroom, I still the find the #1 most likely damaging thing a customer does to our tables, is to think they can eat their food while play pool - transferring unsightly grease and other food stains to the cloth that simply cannot be removed. When I've brought this issue up on this forum in the past, and that we enforce a "no eating while playing" policy here, I'm amazed at how many responders replied they feel that is an unrealistic and overly strict policy to try to enforce on customers. I can't even begin to imagine what our table surfaces would look like if we did not try our best to enforce this policy!

Clearly most responders here fail to understand that in our poolroom, our average customer simply does not have the common sense that most of the more serious players that frequent this forum would have, regarding taking the necessary precautions to make absolutely sure no food/grease stains are transferred from their hands to the pool table, if they choose to eat while they are playing.
 
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I ask this because I am curious how many places allow things like jump shots, legal ones that is and masses that require the cue raiseed well above the shoulder. Neither of these are allowed. I have a jump cue but rarely if ever use it because jump shots are not allowed. Is this common?

The place I play at, Romines in Milwaukee has its regular, a lot of great players but with over 50 tables it's mostly bangers after 7pm.

How does you place of play compare?






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Two of the places I play in don't allow jumping, and very rarely do they make exceptions even for tournaments. The place I play in often that does I don't see any real issues with the cloth being torn up.
 
You and I know that - just common sense. Sadly, for someone who doesn't know the game like we do, they just see it differently and don't understand.

For our poolroom, I still the find the #1 most likely damaging thing a customer does to our tables, is to think they can eat their food while play pool - transferring unsightly grease and other food stains to the cloth that simply cannot be removed. When I've brought this issue up on this forum in the past, and that we enforce a "no eating while playing" policy here, I'm amazed at how many responders replied they feel that is an unrealistic and overly strict policy to try to enforce on customers. I can't even begin to imagine what our table surfaces would look like if we did not try our best to enforce this policy!

Clearly most responders here fail to understand that in our poolroom, our average customer simply does not have the common sense that most of the more serious players that frequent this forum would have, regarding taking the necessary precautions to make absolutely sure no food/grease stains are transferred from their hands to the pool table, if they choose to eat while they are playing.

Two thoughts;

1. To the people that suggested you had nothing to apologize for, I agree but if the customers were clueless and not ill-intentioned and then genuinely upset, it is also up to Chris to determine if he wants to keep the customers. It is a business and I completely respect the decision to be the bigger man and apologize.

2. On the no-food while eating policy, this reminds me of a story. About a dozen years ago I was playing at my local pool hall on a Sunday. The tables had recently been re-clothed and looked beautiful. They had a small tournament and because it was a Sunday the kitchen was closed, but the owner ordered in pizza for the players. I was eating a tasty piece of greasy pizza and put it down and went to break, leaving a GIANT GREASE STAIN in the shape of my hand on the cloth. Now, I have a table at home and take great care of it, and do the same with tables at the pool hall, but somehow I just had a brain cramp and forgot to carefully clean my hands. It was remarkably stupid. Also remarkably, the owner didn't kill me and we are still friends to this day. And, from then on I always, always, always triple check my hands if I have been eating.
 
Agree 100000%. We used to have this self-proclaimed trick-shot "artist" come in and star jumping, curving, all kinds of stupid s^&t. Well, as you can well imagine it didn't take long for this moron to be sent on his way. That kid's dad is as big an idiot as he is. You won't miss them if they never return.

I think the judgement of the guy who has managed to stay in business for 22 years counts a little more than the outrage of some guy on the internet.
 
I think the judgement of the guy who has managed to stay in business for 22 years counts a little more than the outrage of some guy on the internet.
Agreed and I appreciate the compliment, but my policy has always been that I really hate to lose even one customer, and it has worked out pretty good thus far. In hindsight, I could have probably handled the situation better. But as I was 70 feet away from the table and was witnessing my new cloth being subject to such unnecessary abuse, it was an automatic reaction to flicker the lights on their table to get their attention. After getting their attention, I really didn't need to say anything at all to them to embarrass them to everyone else in the poolroom, as apparently that's how they took it.
 
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Put these on all the house cues. If they know enough to take it off, they probably also know enough to not hurt the table.
 

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The majority of our customers would NOT know to take it off. What exactly is it, where do you get them, and is it possible to play with them installed over a tip/ferrule on a house cue? Not a bad idea!
 
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