Scott vs Chip Sept. 2019 rerun

Wow, 6 hours and 40 minutes! I just watched the first inning: almost 2 minutes for the break, plus first shot. This game needs a shot clock.
 
Wow, 6 hours and 40 minutes! I just watched the first inning: almost 2 minutes for the break, plus first shot. This game needs a shot clock.

Its an 8 ahead set.
That means one guy ahead of the other
by 8 full games.
6 hours is a very fast set for this type of match.

Neither of these players play slow by anyones
standard.
One pocket might not be for you.
 
Its an 8 ahead set.
That means one guy ahead of the other
by 8 full games.
6 hours is a very fast set for this type of match.

Neither of these players play slow by anyones
standard.
One pocket might not be for you.
Yes it is

WPA Pool:

20. SHOT CLOCK
A shot clock may be requested at any time during a match by a tournament official or either player involved in that match. The tournament director or other appointed official decides whether to use a shot clock or not. Should a shot clock be introduced, both players will be “on the clock” and there will be an official timekeeper for the duration of the match. As a recommendation, players will have 35 seconds per shot with a warning when 10 seconds remain. Each player will be allowed one 25-second extension during each rack. The shot clock will be started when all balls come to rest, including spinning balls. The shot clock will end when the cue tip strikes the cue ball to initiate a stroke or the when player’s time expires from the shot clock. If a player runs out of time, it will be a standard foul. After the opening shot the time cap may be extended but cannot exceed the 60 seconds.

Chip took 1:13 and 1:34 on his first two shots. That's slow.
 
Wow, 6 hours and 40 minutes! I just watched the first inning: almost 2 minutes for the break, plus first shot. This game needs a shot clock.
This match wasn't slow at all. Its hi-dollar action one pocket not 9ball. No clock needed.
 
All things are relative. I guess the culture of one-pocket must be generally slower play than other billiard games. Not judging, just making an observation.

Sometimes, especially in the first tier of the game
(After the break and before the balls head up table),
the shot is not always obvious right away and a mistake
at this point can be devastating.

I think if you watch the first hour or so.
Provided one pocket is your kind of game to watch.
You will find the pace of the players to be quite
adequate.
The match is for 40k total and many times a match of
this type(ahead sets) can take 3 days or more.
When they are playing 8-10 hour days.
 
All things are relative. I guess the culture of one-pocket must be generally slower play than other billiard games. Not judging, just making an observation.
You obviously have never played it. Short version: 9ball is checkers to one-pocket's chess. You have multiple options with even more possible outcomes in 1p so naturally it may take longer. In 9ball the shot is obvious to anyone that has eyes so it should be quicker unless of course the WPA runs it and then races to 11 take over 3hrs. There is no "one pocket culture" that causes pace of play problems. Look, don't like it then don't watch/play it.
 
You obviously have never played it. Short version: 9ball is checkers to one-pocket's chess. You have multiple options with even more possible outcomes in 1p so naturally it may take longer. In 9ball the shot is obvious to anyone that has eyes so it should be quicker unless of course the WPA runs it and then races to 11 take over 3hrs. There is no "one pocket culture" that causes pace of play problems. Look, don't like it then don't watch/play it.

I would like to try it some day. I'll watch some more of the video, maybe jump ahead a bit.
 
A reason why I'm wrong to such a degree would be helpful.

You don’t know what you don’t know. Until you understand one pocket you won’t have any idea what we’re talking about. These guys are some of the fastest players out there. That pretty much explains it.
 
Hey, lighten up! I said it's slow, relative to other games I know, I didn't say it's bad! I admitted I didn't know it, and that I wanted to try playing.

I confess that if I played someone who got down on the cue ball and then back up ten times, walking around the table half of those times, walked away from the table for 30 seconds and then came back and started all over again - I might be annoyed. So, yea, maybe it's not for me, if that's an essential element of the sport. If someone did that in an eight ball or nine ball match, I'd say something like, 'hey, let's move this thing along, O.K.?'

There's a reason they introduced a clock in chess, and in many billiards games, as delay became a form of sharking, and the game became a test of physical endurance rather than skill at the game.

That said, fine! I didn't say it's bad, just in learning mode. I guess I've learned that one-pocket is a slow game; not that this match is slow compared to other one-pocket matches, but that, as it appears to my ignorant perception, it's slow compared to other billiards games that I'm familiar with.

No judgement or criticism, just an observation. (I've also learned that some one-pocket enthusiasts are fairly thin-skinned.)
 
A reason why I'm wrong to such a degree would be helpful.

One pocket is very different from all other pool games.
You are not wrong that the players may take a
little longer on some shots.

Slow play is when someone gets up, gets down, repeat.
Does the Johnny Archer lint pick.
Just stands there for 10 min looking but doing nothing.

These players don't do that if you watch the match.

One pocket with pros playing almost never needs
a shot clock. There are just alot of options to
consider on certain shots.

Here are some good videos with commentary
that explain what's going on with this game:
https://youtu.be/tiQDUqJB2YY
https://youtu.be/CUwVxMbeXpg
https://youtu.be/Hp776RAe7yo
https://youtu.be/Y6A1QCJTdBU
A few az members in some of these matches too!

Explanation for beginners
https://youtu.be/rXyQTSv8b_Y

Hope this helps
 
Hey, lighten up! I said it's slow, relative to other games I know, I didn't say it's bad! I admitted I didn't know it, and that I wanted to try playing.

I confess that if I played someone who got down on the cue ball and then back up ten times, walking around the table half of those times, walked away from the table for 30 seconds and then came back and started all over again - I might be annoyed. So, yea, maybe it's not for me, if that's an essential element of the sport. If someone did that in an eight ball or nine ball match, I'd say something like, 'hey, let's move this thing along, O.K.?'

There's a reason they introduced a clock in chess, and in many billiards games, as delay became a form of sharking, and the game became a test of physical endurance rather than skill at the game.

That said, fine! I didn't say it's bad, just in learning mode. I guess I've learned that one-pocket is a slow game; not that this match is slow compared to other one-pocket matches, but that, as it appears to my ignorant perception, it's slow compared to other billiards games that I'm familiar with.

No judgement or criticism, just an observation. (I've also learned that some one-pocket enthusiasts are fairly thin-skinned.)
The reason you get hammered on this is you try to make comments/observations on something you apparently have never played and know nothing about. Go play it a few times and then post something.
 
One pocket is very different from all other pool games.
You are not wrong that the players may take a
little longer on some shots.

Slow play is when someone gets up, gets down, repeat.
Does the Johnny Archer lint pick.
Just stands there for 10 min looking but doing nothing.

These players don't do that if you watch the match.

One pocket with pros playing almost never needs
a shot clock. There are just alot of options to
consider on certain shots.

Here are some good videos with commentary
that explain what's going on with this game:
https://youtu.be/tiQDUqJB2YY
https://youtu.be/CUwVxMbeXpg
https://youtu.be/Hp776RAe7yo
https://youtu.be/Y6A1QCJTdBU
A few az members in some of these matches too!

Explanation for beginners
https://youtu.be/rXyQTSv8b_Y

Hope this helps

Yes, thank you for the considerate and useful reply!

jv
 
Yes, thank you for the considerate and useful reply!

jv

Watch yourself jviss...you’re on thin ice buddy :outtahere: lol

Like someone said above, the first few shots of a rack usually take some time. Especially the response to the break. A lot of stuff going on there and to look out for.

In general the time between shots is longer in one pocket because of all the options available. What people usually consider “slow” in one pocket is players that don’t try to do much with each shot. Like some will bunt balls strictly to deny their opponent a shot, instead of trying to move a ball near their pocket while keeping the other guy safe.

That’s a simple break down but generally the more aggressive players will take more risk and try to do more with each shot, making them either win or loose fairly quickly.
 
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