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It skid

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Pool room mate tried out a G10 tip for the first time:

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The yellow spots are burn marks. You can smell the burn right off the break shot holding the tip near the nose, smells like a hot metal pan heating up over the fire.

Is this normal for G10 tip or he got a dud?

Does the tip burn and melt a little each time it strikes the CB? Tip going to last?

Thank you for reading this :)
 
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It skid said:
Pool room mate tried out a G10 tip for the first time:

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The yellow spots are burn marks. You could them right off the break shot holding the tip near the nose, like a hot metal pan over a fire.
Is this normal for G10 tip or he got a dud?
Does the tip burn and melt a little each time it strikes the CB? Tip going to last?

Thank you for reading this :)
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A lot of good break tips out there that are better than these and don't damage cue balls. Get a White Diamond.
 
garczar said:
A lot of good break tips out there that are better than these and don't damage cue balls. Get a White Diamond.
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Thanks but I'm not sure if the G10 tip can do much to an Aramith cue ball. Just like what they said about phenolic way back.
Reputable balls :ROFLMAO: like Aramith's probably take more damage flying off the table and from hitting the other balls.

Back to the top questions, anyone using G10 tips to share?
 
It skid said:
Thanks but I'm not sure if the G10 tip can do much to an Aramith cue ball. Just like what they said about phenolic way back.
Reputable balls :ROFLMAO: like Aramith's probably take more damage flying off the table and from hitting the other balls.

Back to the top questions, anyone using G10 tips to share?
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Wrong. Go find a CB that's been hit a lot with G10 tips. You'll see little semi-circle flaws in the surface. A lot of rooms have banned them just for this reason. Some folks smarter than me tend to think its the fiberglass in G10 that does it. Prior to G10 tips you never saw these little marks/flaws. A friend with a table bought a new Aramith measel cb and within about a year the ball looked like hell. It never hit a floor/wall/bricks. Since he quit using that G10 tip the new CB still looks new. His experience is not the exception, quite common actually.
 
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garczar said:
Wrong. Go find a CB that's been hit a lot with G10 tips. You'll see little semi-circle flaws in the surface. A lot of rooms have banned them just for this reason. Some folks smarter than me tend to think its the fiberglass in G10 that does it. Prior to G10 tips you never saw these little marks/flaws. A friend with a table bought a new Aramith measel cb and within about a year the ball looked like hell. It never hit a floor/wall/bricks. Since he quit using that G10 tip the new CB still looks new. His experience is not the exception, quite common actually.
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It's a simple hardness principle. The thing that is harder will be able to scratch the thing that is softer. Physics of course are way more complicated, but when it comes to repeated impact, this kind of hardness difference will be evident pretty quickly.
 
thoffen said:
It's a simple hardness principle. The thing that is harder will be able to scratch the thing that is softer. Physics of course are way more complicated, but when it comes to repeated impact, this kind of hardness difference will be evident pretty quickly.
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G10 is 110 Rockwell. Non-glass phenolic tips are around 90-100RH. Phenolic pool balls are 57-60. You are exactly right.
 
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It skid said:
Thanks garczar for the insight. Do you have the link where we can read more on this?
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Not really. I know what i can see. This topic has been covered a lot. Just search it. The hardness of the materials is easy to find. There are tips that give just as good ball speed that don't leave these marks. White Diamond and Bulletproof are two i'd look at.
 
garczar said:
Not really. I know what i can see. This topic has been covered a lot. Just search it. The hardness of the materials is easy to find. There are tips that give just as good ball speed that don't leave these marks. White Diamond and Bulletproof are two i'd look at.
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Yes when the tip came off in the pool room a couple of players had made some suggestions.
 
It skid said:
Pool room mate tried out a G10 tip for the first time:

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The yellow spots are burn marks. You can smell the burn right off the break shot holding the tip near the nose, smells like a hot metal pan heating up over the fire.

Is this normal for G10 tip or he got a dud?

Does the tip burn and melt a little each time it strikes the CB? Tip going to last?

Thank you for reading this :)
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get yourself WHITE DIAMOND ULTRA TIP
OR KAMAKAZI BREAK TIP
BOTH WORK REALLY WELL
 
garczar said:
I've heard of it but the only damage i've seen has been done by G10's.
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I have seen phenolic tips do damage. I just put a new set of Aramith balls, the premier set, on my table and my buddy has used his BK with phenolic and I noticed afterwards there were half moon shaped 'marks' on the cueball. Not as bad as the G10, but phenolics still do damage.
 
It skid said:
Pool room mate tried out a G10 tip for the first time:

View attachment 601245

The yellow spots are burn marks. You can smell the burn right off the break shot holding the tip near the nose, smells like a hot metal pan heating up over the fire.

Is this normal for G10 tip or he got a dud?

Does the tip burn and melt a little each time it strikes the CB? Tip going to last?

Thank you for reading this :)
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Stupid question maybe, but did you guys not put chalk on it? I would imagine chalk would prevent any burning and also avoid miscues. I'm not really familiar with the tips, maybe they don't need chalk, I plead ignorance if they don't.
 
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