Ease of transition to a 7ft when you mainly play on/own a 9ft (9ft league cut vs 7ft pro pockets)

Nyquil

Nyquil

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I got my 9ft pro am with league cuts this summer and have not played on any other tables other than a buddies oversized 8ft valley a couple of times. Tonight I went to a bar that has 7ft diamonds. The biggest thing I noticed off the bat were the pro cuts are a lot less forgiving than my league cut pockets. There is definitely a difference. Side shots however, seemed so easy due to the playing surface width difference. The rails were not as lively which is to be expected due to the 9fters having the K66's but adjusting was not very difficult and I made several banks. I did end up with more cluster play than I am used to on the 9ft'er. I had one break and run at of 4 1:1 games. Which is higher than I what I average at home. The rest of my play were dual teams I missed some easy shots playing duals so playing primarily on a 9ft'er is not guaranteed success on a 7. I am used to playing by myself and there were many people watching my group I met up with play which likely impacted me a bit. All in all I would def say it is easier to move down than move up but it's not a cake walk the other way. I don't know why so many people hate on 7's. They are a lot of fun and are still a challenge especially with pro cuts.
 
Nyquil said:
I got my 9ft pro am with league cuts this summer and have not played on any other tables other than a buddies oversized 8ft valley a couple of times. Tonight I went to a bar that has 7ft diamonds. The biggest thing I noticed off the bat were the pro cuts are a lot less forgiving than my league cut pockets. There is definitely a difference. Side shots however, seemed so easy due to the playing surface width difference. The rails were not as lively which is to be expected due to the 9fters having the K66's but adjusting was not very difficult and I made several banks. I did end up with more cluster play than I am used to on the 9ft'er. I had one break and run at of 4 1:1 games. Which is higher than I what I average at home. The rest of my play were dual teams I missed some easy shots playing duals so playing primarily on a 9ft'er is not guaranteed success on a 7. I am used to playing by myself and there were many people watching my group I met up with play which likely impacted me a bit. All in all I would def say it is easier to move down than move up but it's not a cake walk the other way. I don't know why so many people hate on 7's. They are a lot of fun and are still a challenge especially with pro cuts.
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It shouldn't be that big of an issue other than when you are practicing you really need to make sure when hitting balls down the rail that you aim them good and they dont hit the rail first. So you need to be aware of when you hit a shot and when it wouldn't fall on professional equipment. Other than that the league cut should be a harder table overall to pocket balls on.
 
pw98 said:
It shouldn't be that big of an issue other than when you are practicing you really need to make sure when hitting balls down the rail that you aim them good and they dont hit the rail first. So you need to be aware of when you hit a shot and when it wouldn't fall on professional equipment. Other than that the league cut should be a harder table overall to pocket balls on.
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Hey PW, I agree with you. It's was interesting to play on a smaller table with lighter non tournament grade balls. It was also just great to get out and play others. It's much more enjoyable than playing solo. I think I found my group I will play league with next year since they offered me a spot. I think to your point with practicing I have got into a bad lazy streak with that. All my solo play has caused me not to treat each shot with as much care as I should.
Cheers
Brent
 
The pro cuts shouldn't be much different.
The thing that troubles me most going down
to 7 is pattern angles, especially on rotation
games.
If, on a 9ft I like to have a 40° angle to the
shot. On a 7ft I might only want a 25° angle
on my shot so the cueball doesn't travel
too far. Hope that makes sense.
 
Nyquil said:
I got my 9ft pro am with league cuts this summer and have not played on any other tables other than a buddies oversized 8ft valley a couple of times. Tonight I went to a bar that has 7ft diamonds. The biggest thing I noticed off the bat were the pro cuts are a lot less forgiving than my league cut pockets. There is definitely a difference. Side shots however, seemed so easy due to the playing surface width difference. The rails were not as lively which is to be expected due to the 9fters having the K66's but adjusting was not very difficult and I made several banks. I did end up with more cluster play than I am used to on the 9ft'er. I had one break and run at of 4 1:1 games. Which is higher than I what I average at home. The rest of my play were dual teams I missed some easy shots playing duals so playing primarily on a 9ft'er is not guaranteed success on a 7. I am used to playing by myself and there were many people watching my group I met up with play which likely impacted me a bit. All in all I would def say it is easier to move down than move up but it's not a cake walk the other way. I don't know why so many people hate on 7's. They are a lot of fun and are still a challenge especially with pro cuts.
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All Diamonds use K55 profile rubber, not K66. Nine foot Diamonds use Artemis Intercontinental No. 66 Billiard Cushion (K55) while the seven footers use Diamond Black Cushions (K55). It is interesting to me that you think your nine footer is faster. My experience has been the seven footers are more zippy.
 
rexus31 said:
All Diamonds use K55 profile rubber, not K66. Nine foot Diamonds use Artemis Intercontinental No. 66 Billiard Cushion (K55) while the seven footers use Diamond Black Cushions (K55). It is interesting to me that you think your nine footer is faster. My experience has been the seven footers are more zippy.
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Hmm I guess I was wrong on the cushions. Either way I think the cushions I played on at the bar were close to being toast or the rail bolts are not tight. I hit a few dead spots on them. Cloth was pretty dirty which I think slowed things down a bit. It looked like it was 860hr which is the same stuff as I have at home.
 
couldnthinkof01 said:
couldnthinkof01 said:
The pro cuts shouldn't be much different.
The thing that troubles me most going down
to 7 is pattern angles, especially on rotation
games.
If, on a 9ft I like to have a 40° angle to the
shot. On a 7ft I might only want a 25° angle
on my shot so the cueball doesn't travel
too far. Hope that makes sense.
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The cut shots is what I had some issues with. Just looking at the pockets I can tell a difference. I saw some shots get spit out I know my leagues would have accepted. I like the pro's you have to hit true where the leagues still can be tough (vs like a valley) but you can get away with some poorly struck balls if they get past the front of the jaw.
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Mark Wilson was saying on a stream he has
a radar gun at home. If a pro shoots a shot like that it's at about 6.5-7 mph. Average player was around 11 or something to that effect. Speed kills on the tight table.
 
When I got my Diamond 8 ft, I was told that the cushions on the 7 and 8 foot rebound less than the 9'. That would make sense to me.
 
You should have got pro cut for your 9’er🤣
When we ever get our house built I’m going for 4 1/4”. Hard to believe that it costs an extra $500 for smaller pockets
 
jtompilot said:
You should have got pro cut for your 9’er🤣
When we ever get our house built I’m going for 4 1/4”. Hard to believe that it costs an extra $500 for smaller pockets
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4 1/4 is tight man. Good luck with that lol. I am def not a good enough shooter to enjoy that tough of play.
 
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