Diamond or Rasson?
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Brunswick GC6 , Diamond and Rasson is not an option for me. 4.5 is you dont play one pocket , 4.25 if you do! If you need any help, I specialize in GC and Diamond tables. Have a great day!
TFT
TFT
Curious if you have any experience with the Rasson as far as quality or playability goes?
I mainly play 8 ball and 9 ball but with my own table will be trying some 10 ball as well. Never really looked into 1 pocket, ill have to look at it some.
phreaticus
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Get the Rasson Victory 2 and please post a detailed review!
They look awesome, and now used in many world class events, but I’ve never seen/played on one in person and there seem to be no thorough reviews available. So this is a great public service opportunity tor you!
Good luck with your decision.
Where do you live?? If in the States i'd buy the Diamond EVERY TIME. I buy enough Chinese-made stuff at Walmart.
Im in New Brunswick , Canada. im leaning towards Diamond as im not a huge fan of buying chinese either.
If you go Diamond, reach out to Heath Manning of manningcues.com. He is in Canada.
There is a General Manager now that answers the main phone, but he could put you in touch with Heath. Many on AzB, including me, have had excellent customer service from Heath.
There is a General Manager now that answers the main phone, but he could put you in touch with Heath. Many on AzB, including me, have had excellent customer service from Heath.
I have played on the OX @ Backwoods Billiards in Okeechobee FLA, the owner and I played pretty late, very nice guy! They play great! how could they not? they are a copy of how a gold crown and a diamond plays. klematch p59 k55 cushions are to notch. Main issues with all this metal: vibration... I have spoken to other mechanics that have set them up = NIGHTMARE. So you better have a TOP notch mechanic. Not that the china part is a big deal to me, so many manufacturers have most of their parts made there, the slate comes mostly from China, there is no network of proficient mechanics to work on them. Diamond is your route. I am also a Diamond dealer and mechanic (not looking for a sale in Heaths area) and if you have any questions< I would be willing to chat with you on the phone if you like. I just noticed you live near our new place in MAINE!!!
The Predator table might also be in your realm as well, I will be selling them when they hit our market next year!!!
6-7 month wait on Diamonds now
TRENT FROM TOLEDO
9’ Diamond Pro. Sale price $8995. List 9995
9’ Diamond ProAm $7995
9’ Victory 2 $8999
9’ OX $7199
Rotation games, definitely 4.5”
No brainer. Diamond
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tomatoshooter
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I've noticed most reviews of pool equipment are from places selling it. That and they seem to be aimed at more casual players.
The Rasson looks great and the extruded aluminum frame seems like a great idea. The small base concerns me slightly if you don't have a concrete slab. With the contact points so close together, any shift in your floor will have a much greater effect than on a Diamond, which has the contact points what looks like 50% further apart. I may be a bit paranoid here. My floor has noticeable high and low spots but my pool table hasn't shifted noticeably in the year I've owned it but I think you should consider this if you have a wood framed floor. Just a thought.
phreaticus
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Thats an interesting observation. From an engineering perspective, one could also argue that a more condensed base footprint has less exposure to floor level variations, and the multi point leveling system would probably make it a wash anyway. Hard to say… When I was evaluating them, my (minor) concern with the smaller base design was the potential for less than bombproof stability in a high use environment, table bumps, leaning/reaching, etc.
In any case, seems the main knock on the Rasson is just its lack of lack of record & sparcer product support network here in USA, but of course any new product faces these challenges.
I guess we should all be happy there are these new offerings. More competition eventually always benefits the consumer; better quality & lower prices. On a side note, its encouraging that new companies are entering the table market - this would seem to indicate the consumer pool market is growing not shrinking - surely a good thing for all!
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Shelf depth not sure on either. I believe Diamond uses 141 degree.
Rasson should copy it lol. If they already don't. Pro cut pocket is awesome.
Rasson should copy it lol. If they already don't. Pro cut pocket is awesome.
tomatoshooter
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I am probably overestimating the risk. My table is levelled with shims so any settling will take a lot of work to rectify. The Rasson's frame and levelling system do look nice in the video I saw. Really, the shape makes the base look a bit smaller than it is, I think it would take quite a collision to upset the table. As far as product support goes, I think once the table is properly installed I wouldn't worry too much. I agree more manufacturers is great for the consumer, they have to compete for the business.
Nyquil
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I would call Heath Manning for your order if you buy a diamond. Many have bought from him including myself. Heath is the customer service of diamond essentially, him and Glen. Anyway I have heard some good things on a Rasson but not too many out there in the wild and your taking a gamble imo with future support/parts/install etc. Diamonds will always hold their value and everyone knows what they are. In regards to pockets size 4.25 is tough. Even the pro's have issues once you get down that tight. Look at some of the matchroom event that had the 4.25 pockets. For a 9 unless your highly skilled I would go with 4.5 pro's. Also that's a standard size. It will be several hundred dollars more to get the tighter pockets.
Shelf on a ProCut Diamond is 1.75". At least on the one i measured.