Thorpe suspended for 2 years???

I can’t imagine a suspension from WPA events means anything more than not being able to compete in the WPA world championships every year, which very few US players ever bother with participating in anyway.

The World Championship isn't the only WPA event.

All Matchroom events and pretty much any event with a significant prize fund.

Not being able to play in any of those is a huge dent to any professional pool player.
 
There's a bit of irony in all this. Everyone has been saying pool needs to "organize", we need "rules", there needs to be "accountability" in order for pool to be taken seriously and attract large scale sponsors and real money. Here we have the WPA (granted they are worthless) doing exactly this: organizing, putting parameters in place and enforcing when those parameters are breached, yet everyone is upset over it. The rule was established, Billy knew the rule was established and he made a choice to break it. Illegal vs legal is irrelevant. The WPA says they do not want people in their association using marijuana. Billy knew this, agreed to the terms and got caught. Time to pay the piper. In the real world, people are subject to a drug test whether it be during the hiring process or randomly as a condition of employment. Despite being legal in a given state, a positive test for marijuana usually results in being denied employment or loss of job. I don't understand why people think he should not be held accountable for violating the terms of his agreement.
Start paying them what they deserve for all the work and effort it requires, and then maybe we can hold them to higher standards.
 
Start paying them what they for all the work and effort it requires, and then maybe we can hold them to higher standards.
I don't see how one correlates to the other. The organization has standards and Billy chose to agree to them and participate then proceeded to break the rules which carries a punishment. Would that change if he made millions per year?
 
The World Championship isn't the only WPA event.

All Matchroom events and pretty much any event with a significant prize fund.

Not being able to play in any of those is a huge dent to any professional pool player.
I think that would also include the US Open since it is sanctioned by the WPA. I’m guessing it may also include anything on the WPA ranking list. If true, that’s a massive blow.
 
I don't see how one correlates to the other. The organization has standards and Billy chose to agree to them and participate then proceeded to break the rules which carries a punishment. Would that change if he made millions per year?
It's pretty easy... One isn't going to be subject to a drug test, and other ways of climbing up your ass, for a minimum wage job. I certainly wouldn't. I would tell them to get bent.

If you want to hold players to higher standards, you have to treat them like the professionals that they are. Of course that hasn't been done for 25 years.
 
Pool has a wonderful chance to leapfrog over a lot of "normal" sports.

But that window is closing.


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It's pretty easy... One isn't going to be subject to a drug test, and other ways of climbing up your ass, for a minimum wage job. I certainly wouldn't. I would tell them to get bent.

If you want to hold players to higher standards, you have to treat them like the professionals that they are. Of course that hasn't been done for 25 years.
Lots of jobs (low and high paying) require a drug test as a term of employment. Like you said, it's your choice to accept the terms or seek employment elsewhere. Billy chose to agree to the terms.

If one wants to be deemed a professional, one must act like a professional. He WILLINGLY agreed to the terms the WPA set forth and KNOWINGLY disregarded what he agreed to. That is not behavior befitting a professional. I seriously doubt finances would play a part. Billy would have done what Billy wanted to do. It seems to be his m.o. How many high paid athletes in other sports violate the rules? Lots.
 
No one has yet posted a source for the original story.

Mario He's suspension has documented sources, but this report that Thorpe was suspended for two years for smoking weed seems to be just unsubstantiated rumour, and it may be just pure BS.

Does anyone have any real evidence that this is .... well.... real??
 
In terms of the reason for suspension or length of suspension?

If I ran the world I wouldn't care what pool players drink/smoke during their free time but would empower tournament directors and referees to boot players if they are disorderly. Pool needs more 20-year old Billy Thorpes and less reliance on senior citizens. Earl is sober (I think) but often behaves worse during play than any pothead or drunk.
 
If I ran the world I wouldn't care what pool players drink/smoke during their free time but would empower tournament directors and referees to boot players if they are disorderly. Pool needs more 20-year old Billy Thorpes and less reliance on senior citizens. Earl is sober (I think) but often behaves worse during play than any pothead or drunk.
I guess we agree to disagree. There has to be standards in place and accountability when those standards are violated. What parents would want their kids involved with a sport that condones drug use at its highest level? I suppose being drunk and assaulting an opponent over a rack disagreement while on a live stream doesn't classify as Earl-like behavior. Pro pool doesn't need more Billy Thorpes, it needs more Chris Reinholds.
 
I know for a 1000% fact one of the players in Mosconi regularly smokes weed.

Would not surprise me that Billy's number came up because of the shit storm he caused with Rob Saez. When pool wants you out, they show you the door. One way or another.
 
If I ran the world I wouldn't care what pool players drink/smoke during their free time but would empower tournament directors and referees to boot players if they are disorderly. Pool needs more 20-year old Billy Thorpes and less reliance on senior citizens. Earl is sober (I think) but often behaves worse during play than any pothead or drunk.
Did you see the drunken Thorpe video?
You might reconsider if you do.
 
I guess we agree to disagree. There has to be standards in place and accountability when those standards are violated. What parents would want their kids involved with a sport that condones drug use at its highest level? I suppose being drunk and assaulting an opponent over a rack disagreement while on a live stream doesn't classify as Earl-like behavior. Pro pool doesn't need more Billy Thorpes, it needs more Chris Reinholds.

I'll agree on the Billy-drunk-while-gambling-on-video comment (which didn't keep him out of any tournaments) and that he is no role model. And that it would be great if the world was filled with players like Chris (and Tyler). But pool doesn't need to have stricter standards than the NBA or NFL:

 
Did you see the drunken Thorpe video?
You might reconsider if you do.

Fair enough. But the pool-in-tuxedos approach failed the game for 50 years. I read a few minutes ago that the WPA applies these rules because it's mandatory for sports that want Olympic recognition. That's a least a reason for all of this if that's the plan for professional pool. Online sports betting would be my plan like Snooker has in the UK.
 
There's a bit of irony in all this. Everyone has been saying pool needs to "organize", we need "rules", there needs to be "accountability" in order for pool to be taken seriously and attract large scale sponsors and real money. Here we have the WPA (granted they are worthless) doing exactly this: organizing, putting parameters in place and enforcing when those parameters are breached, yet everyone is upset over it. The rule was established, Billy knew the rule was established and he made a choice to break it. Illegal vs legal is irrelevant. The WPA says they do not want people in their association using marijuana. Billy knew this, agreed to the terms and got caught. Time to pay the piper. In the real world, people are subject to a drug test whether it be during the hiring process or randomly as a condition of employment. Despite being legal in a given state, a positive test for marijuana usually results in being denied employment or loss of job. I don't understand why people think he should not be held accountable for violating the terms of his agreement.

That's a great point but the punishment does not fit the crime in today's world. I have zero issue if they have a no drug policy and enforce it, but two years - from someone who doesn't pay his salary, or at least any substantial part of it?
 
What it all boils down to is this.... what he does on his personal time, I couldn't give a shit less about.

Now if they want to say you cannot be under the influence or "using" during the tournament is prohibited, I could agree with that. For instance, going outside between matches, and then coming back inside smelling like you were sprayed by a skunk. I could see where that would irritate people. Kind of like someone going out and smoking cigarettes it coming back in smelling like smoke. That kind of irritates me a little bit.

And while we're on the subject of cigarettes, why doesn't the WPA test for tobacco use? Tobacco use goes against being a sports figure. And don't tell me it's because tobacco is legal. There are many things that the WPA test for that are perfectly legal over the counter, but you're not allowed to have in your system to participate in their events.
 
If I ran the world I wouldn't care what pool players drink/smoke during their free time but would empower tournament directors and referees to boot players if they are disorderly. Pool needs more 20-year old Billy Thorpes and less reliance on senior citizens. Earl is sober (I think) but often behaves worse during play than any pothead or drunk.
Did you see the drunken Thorpe video?
You might reconsider if you do.
Fair enough. But the pool-in-tuxedos approach failed the game for 50 years. I read a few minutes ago that the WPA applies these rules because it's mandatory for sports that want Olympic recognition. That's a least a reason for all of this if that's the plan for professional pool. Online sports betting would be my plan like Snooker has in the UK.
Pretty sure any pool player would sell their Olympic medal for 2k or less....
 
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