Or let people live their lives and concentrate on performance enhancing drugs and growing the industry that’s dying a slow death.
Thorpe suspended for 2 years???
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Magic mushrooms and other psychedelics were de-criminalized in Washington, D.C., earlier this year. Apparently, they are helpful in treatment with PTSD and other mental disorders in tandem with therapy.
I grew up in the Woodstock generation, and I find the legalization of all these drugs a wee bit odd. There are people still in jail today for marijuana, yet it's legal on most States of the Union. Now mushrooms? Maybe the world is so F-ed up that people need the alter their state of consciousness at will to escape the reality we're living in.
I grew up in the Woodstock generation, and I find the legalization of all these drugs a wee bit odd. There are people still in jail today for marijuana, yet it's legal on most States of the Union. Now mushrooms? Maybe the world is so F-ed up that people need the alter their state of consciousness at will to escape the reality we're living in.
So... These guys are drug tested? Is it random, like they show up at your house unannounced?
Because, you gotta be a stupid mf to fail a scheduled drug test.
That being said, drug testing for a sport
that doesn't offer so much as a living wage
and by an organization that does what
exactly for pool?
Because, you gotta be a stupid mf to fail a scheduled drug test.
That being said, drug testing for a sport
that doesn't offer so much as a living wage
and by an organization that does what
exactly for pool?
I read somewhere that the WPA testing is random and only during tournaments (not all players and not all the time) and perhaps Billy was playing the odds that his number wouldn't come up.
But here's the problem, we don't really know that much about it, so are we really qualified to take a hard position?
I know a few guys who have been subject to testing, and they can be tested with little notice at an event, or if an out of competition test is deemed necessary, they get notice and they have a short window of time to appear at an approved facility near them.
Athletes are required to provide notice of their whereabouts at all times.
There's a bit of irony in all this. Everyone has been saying pool needs to "organize", we need "rules", there needs to be "accountability" in order for pool to be taken seriously and attract large scale sponsors and real money. Here we have the WPA (granted they are worthless) doing exactly this: organizing, putting parameters in place and enforcing when those parameters are breached, yet everyone is upset over it. The rule was established, Billy knew the rule was established and he made a choice to break it. Illegal vs legal is irrelevant. The WPA says they do not want people in their association using marijuana. Billy knew this, agreed to the terms and got caught. Time to pay the piper. In the real world, people are subject to a drug test whether it be during the hiring process or randomly as a condition of employment. Despite being legal in a given state, a positive test for marijuana usually results in being denied employment or loss of job. I don't understand why people think he should not be held accountable for violating the terms of his agreement.
Pro pool is like a 10 year old child.
flmusclehead
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Yes. I was wondering if that was the case.
I figured if the guy knew he was going to have
to pee on such and such date and failed,
he can do better.
I like to smoke a little from time to time. Had
jobs that requires you not to. I like my paycheck so I take a few years off. A silly thing to get
popped for. 2 years is a joke though.
I think Billy should be held accountable but the rules should be updated so they support pool instead of holding it back.
On this topic I disagree with Earl. From the CDC:
Mental Health | Health Effects | Marijuana | CDC
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People who use marijuana are more likely to develop temporary psychosis (not knowing what is real, hallucinations, and paranoia) and long-lasting mental disorders, including schizophrenia (a type of mental illness where people might see or hear things that are not really there).2 The association between marijuana and schizophrenia is stronger in people who start using marijuana at an earlier age and use marijuana more frequently.
Marijuana use has also been linked to depression; social anxiety; and thoughts of suicide, suicide attempts, and suicide.
Pot has not undergone enough real testing to show that.
Pot cannot be used in such tests without govt permission. Govt has declared it dangerous before any testing showed any such thing, so any results now are to be looked at with a wary eye.
Those stats could be true, but without free inquiry into this subject, it's a guess. Personally, I've never known anyone who has gone crazy by smoking weed. I know a few who were already crazy, but never in my 50 years of being around pot have I seen any such behaviors that came from pot use, that I could tell.
Then there are the thousands of years it's been used that could help us know a little about it.
I've said that when performance drugs are banned for athletes but not for spectators, eventually the spectators will be able to perform better than the non-drugged athletes and then spectator sports are over.
Jeff Livingston
The guidelines were public knowledge, and very easy to follow. It's not like the rules and laws are a wildcard changing by the hour
In terms of the reason for suspension or length of suspension?
THC threshold is probably unreasonably low, and 2 years is a joke if true, in hockey they have counseling or ban/fine (it's a choice) - but he knew the rules. i for one don't want pro players to be high or drunk so rules and thresholds are needed. you don't attract young players, kids, with that kinda stuff on display on the tv.
I can’t imagine a suspension from WPA events means anything more than not being able to compete in the WPA world championships every year, which very few US players ever bother with participating in anyway.
Did he actually test positive for marijuana? as I was informed he flat refused a test, which is a completely different scenario. At that point it is very easy to say "I had some marijuana", which would of course not have been a big problem for most people.
I may have been incorrectly informed, but that is what I was told after the event.
Either way I hope he handles the ban well, knuckles down and comes back having elevated his game further.
I may have been incorrectly informed, but that is what I was told after the event.
Either way I hope he handles the ban well, knuckles down and comes back having elevated his game further.
Earl already has most of those symptoms, and he doesn't even smoke weed. It would probably be the complete opposite for him. How much you want to bet he would be a calm and cool character if you could get him to burn one.On this topic I disagree with Earl. From the CDC:
Mental Health | Health Effects | Marijuana | CDC
CDC works 24/7 to protect America from health, safety and security threats, both foreign and in the U.S.
People who use marijuana are more likely to develop temporary psychosis (not knowing what is real, hallucinations, and paranoia) and long-lasting mental disorders, including schizophrenia (a type of mental illness where people might see or hear things that are not really there).2 The association between marijuana and schizophrenia is stronger in people who start using marijuana at an earlier age and use marijuana more frequently.
Marijuana use has also been linked to depression; social anxiety; and thoughts of suicide, suicide attempts, and suicide.