xX-Wizard-Xx
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i think most benefits of CF are imaginative and the current prices of the product out weigh the benefits. i think a CF shaft in the price range of $170 bucks would probably be a huge hit for people looking to try
Is $169 a bad price for a CF shaft?
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Rregardless... the one true benefit of it is consistency. It SHOULD be the same for the lifetime of it. No dings, no warping, wont get smaller after cleanings over the years, etc.
xX-Wizard-Xx
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from what i have read CF has consistency issues ... also some warp issues can occur (but not often).... dings/scratches are a thing as well. and wood doesnt get smaller unless you sand it same with CF.
i have had the same maple shaft on a cue for over 15yrs and no ding and have played with that cue alot
xX-Wizard-Xx
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i think CF is just another Tool to hype with marketing to make more sells
You get a dent in a wood shaft... how do you get it out? How do you thoroughly clean a wood shaft?
Taking sandpaper to a wood shaft happens way more frequently then a CF shaft... dings are way more common on the wood shaft.
xX-Wizard-Xx
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same with CF ... get a ding or a scratch what do you do?
xX-Wizard-Xx
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wood cleans just fine ..... my 15yr old maple shaft is smooth as silk
Everything is marketing for overpriced sales. V10, CF, Acuras.
For someone like me, if I find a CF shaft that I like, it’s basically the last shaft I’ll ever need. Unless I really do some crazy shit to it. They don’t get nicks or dings from regular use.
For someone like me, if I find a CF shaft that I like, it’s basically the last shaft I’ll ever need. Unless I really do some crazy shit to it. They don’t get nicks or dings from regular use.
xX-Wizard-Xx
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same for me with maple shafts.
Nuh uh
Regardless of what folks here say, a very high percentage of consumers do equate price with quality. Higher price = higher quality. This is what has driven marketing since the creation of capitalism.
So, no, I don't think a $160 CF shaft would do that well in the market.
So, no, I don't think a $160 CF shaft would do that well in the market.
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Your disdain for CF shafts is making your opinion's obtuse.
If you never needed to take sandpaper to a wood shaft then either you just started playing or you only collect cues and don't use them. I'm not saying it's frequent and I'm not saying it should be a regular thing you do, but it's just part of owning one. It's part of general maintenance of one.
The CF shaft will not ding anywhere near as easy as wood and it would have a greater chance of cracking or scratching instead of getting a dent as they are not solid. It will maintain it's properties waaaay longer then a wood shaft due to them not being a natural material. I have no clue what goes into repairing a CF shaft, but I'm fairly certain taking sandpaper to it would be frowned upon and possibly weaken the structural integrity of it.
I'm saying all this as a CF owner but wood user. I don't use a CF shaft. I prefer wood shafts. I prefer the shafts that were made for my cue.
xX-Wizard-Xx
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i have had my cue and play with it since i was 15 im 37 now..... rarely have i ever had the need to use sand paper on my cue....
So you admit to having used sandpaper on it?
Konollen and JFlowers are selling entire cues WITH a CF shaft for 300bux and based on what i've heard/read they are selling the hell out of them. Low price isn't hurting their action. People that know the game and have some knowledge of equipment will buy a shaft at this price-point. The $$$$$=quality is often used by posers just wanting to flaunt their bankroll. I think most pool players are smarter than that. If its well made and plays good the word WILL get around. I'd try one now if they were available.
Wood has WAY more issues with inconsistency than cf. Thats why laminated shafts were developed. Go try to find two solid maple blanks(even made by same maker) that play alike. Good luck with that. Different grain structure/growth rings, etc. make that task basically impossible. CF is a lot like baking a cake, use the same ingredients/material and use the same recipe/method and you can churn out CF shafts one after the other that for all intents and purposes play identical. Plus they are tough as hell and pretty much immune from damage unless the owner is an idiot. I still use use a Mezz ld wood shaft but i also see the writing on the wall,cf is here forever. No fad or gimmick about them.
I agree with you 100% plus.. Marketing only to folks that believe price equates to quality is ludicrous.
If ideologist does go through with this concept I would love to be a pool crash test dummy for his first run.
I found a Chinese company that advertises high quality carbon blanks, at a low price.
I emailed the company and discussed coating the shaft wood colored. The company said no problem ( under $75).
So yes a low cost Carbon shaft is doable.
I did not purchase yet, so buyer be ware! Attached is the site...
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We used to put a little spit on toilet paper and apply to the ding. It kind of pops the wood back if it is a small ding.