I’m wondering how they ( Shane , Jayson and Earl ) have cues 64-66” that are not over 20oz ? If the cues are over 20oz , how heavy and how they adjusted, like them and anyone else here tried it ? Thanks 
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DeeDeeCues
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I use a 62" cue that is under sixteen ounces.
I used a SW I had made for me for about 2-3 years that was 60” back in the slow cloth days. It was a hard hitting 20.5oz cue that made a “ping” sound every time you hit the ball. I named it “ping” I still have it. When the fast cloth showed up I ended up retiring it and switched to a 19.5 oz Joss east for a year.
I liked the extra length. But for fast cloth it was just too much wood. I’d like to know more about what they are using now as well
Thx
Fatboy
I liked the extra length. But for fast cloth it was just too much wood. I’d like to know more about what they are using now as well
Thx
Fatboy
I used a SW I had made for me for about 2-3 years that was 60” back in the slow cloth days. It was a hard hitting 20.5oz cue that made a “ping” sound every time you hit the ball. I named it “ping” I still have it. When the fast cloth showed up I ended up retiring it and switched to a 19.5 oz Joss east for a year.
I liked the extra length. But for fast cloth it was just too much wood. I’d like to know more about what they are using now as well
Thx
Fatboy
I’m trying to hang in there with these young ones so ima figure it out , heck let’s figure it out big dawg !!!!
I’m wondering how they ( Shane , Jayson and Earl ) have cues 64-66” that are not over 20oz ? If the cues are over 20oz , how heavy and how they adjusted, like them and anyone else here tried it ? Thanks
Lots are playing with extensions and not a full length wood cue. The 6 inch cuetec extension is 2oz.
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Designed to give players exceptional positional range. Each DUO® Smart Extension Gen II has the option for a 3, 6 or 9 inch extension.
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I like the longer cues as I'm taller with long arms. The light weight extensions do move the balance point forward, but I'm not sure that makes any difference to anyone.
Lots are playing with extensions and not a full length wood cue. The 6 inch cuetec extension is 2oz.
DUO® Smart Extension for AVID & Gen II Cynergy Cues
Designed to give players exceptional positional range. Each DUO® Smart Extension Gen II has the option for a 3, 6 or 9 inch extension.
I like the longer cues as I'm taller with long arms. The light weight extensions do move the balance point forward, but I'm not sure that makes any difference to anyone.
So I play with a Sugartree cue , it’s awesome and it’s 19.5oz ….. so if I add 2oz to the rearend of the cue , how does it work
You’ve got a 21.5oz cue 
I sometimes go back and forth with the extension for months at a time. It may just be that the change makes me focus more or something but I always seem to jump up my playing in the weeks after a switch, doesn’t matter which way.
My cue is 21.9 oz with the extension. Seems heavy but not really while playing
I sometimes go back and forth with the extension for months at a time. It may just be that the change makes me focus more or something but I always seem to jump up my playing in the weeks after a switch, doesn’t matter which way.
My cue is 21.9 oz with the extension. Seems heavy but not really while playing
Your balance point on the cue moves a couple inches, which some people care about but most probably can't tell. And you'll have a long cue that weighs 2oz more.
My regular cue is 60", weighs 19.45 oz, and has its center of mass ~18 inches from the butt. If add 6 inches to the back of the cue with a 2oz extension with an even weight distribution, it becomes a 66" cue, weighting 21.45oz, with a center of mass around 22 inches from the new butt end. If I used a 3 inch, 1.5oz extension, my balance point is closer to 20" from the new butt end. The extent to which I can really feel this change depends if I grip the cue in the same spot with the extension attached or if I move my hand back to take advantage of the extra space. But I personally don't think this balance change matters at all given the 10,000 other problems in my game.
The bigger issue is probably whether your cue butt already is threaded for an extension. And, if not, that can change the weight and balance of the cue even more.
With so many trying longer cues now days, I decided to make a short extension for one of my Schons to try. While the piece of Birdseye I had laying around in the shop wasn't near as nice as what was on my cue, I decided it would be OK for an experiment.Was a fun little project and added 2 1/2" to the cue. Any more and it wouldn't fit my case. As to added weight, wasn't much as I hollowed it out as much as I could, and put a aluminum weight screw in my cue in place of the steel one it had. Added about 1/2 oz when all said and done. Weight with extension, 19 3/4 oz, cue length with a 30" shaft 61 1/2". Used it at home for about 3 weeks now and took it to league this week and had a couple shots where I was bumping a table with the bumper a couple of times so I took it off when getting home. The cue balance remained good with how I lightened it up. Really liked it, but if it's going to interfere when out shooting, I'll leave it off for now. Total cost to make about 60 cents for a longer bumper bolt. Also purchased a couple of extensions from Rick Roper about the same time and ended up using his bumper on the wood extension while I had it on. So the other pic is of the Rick roper extensions.
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I'm 6-2" tall and have a wing span(ape index) of 6'-2".
Playing with a 58" cue was not practical for me since I was gripping the cue at the very end. This resulted in having to push the cue forward.
My current cue is an all black CueTec cue SVB series.
When getting the cue all factory installed weights were removed from the butt of the cue and a 4.1 oz CT extension was added.
The extension is 6 1/2" inches long and adds as stated above 4.1 oz to the end of the cue.
The entire cue weighs 22.3oz and is 64" long. The balance point (from the butt) is at 21".
The neat thing and feel of this setup is I now have 4.1oz of weight behind my grip hand which allows me to pull the cue weight forward in a straight line while stroking rather than trying to push the cue forward in a straight line.
If your a tall player you may want to try this out. Remove any factory weighting from the butt of the cue, screw on the extension and have fun.
Playing with a 58" cue was not practical for me since I was gripping the cue at the very end. This resulted in having to push the cue forward.
My current cue is an all black CueTec cue SVB series.
When getting the cue all factory installed weights were removed from the butt of the cue and a 4.1 oz CT extension was added.
The extension is 6 1/2" inches long and adds as stated above 4.1 oz to the end of the cue.
The entire cue weighs 22.3oz and is 64" long. The balance point (from the butt) is at 21".
The neat thing and feel of this setup is I now have 4.1oz of weight behind my grip hand which allows me to pull the cue weight forward in a straight line while stroking rather than trying to push the cue forward in a straight line.
If your a tall player you may want to try this out. Remove any factory weighting from the butt of the cue, screw on the extension and have fun.
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Not being a 'tall' person myself, 6'-0". I've always wondered why some who claim to be merely an inch or two taller "require" a longer cue. I'd wager my grip hand shifts up and down roughly a foot based on necessity. If anything it stands to greater reason that a shorter player requires a longer cue. I'll just consider myself lucky I suppose.
As to playing with longer cues. I can't speak for pros or to their abilities, but I have to imagine the bulk of this length must be at the back end. I attempted to play with a shaft a mere 1" longer and couldn't do it...lol. I had gotten so used to the joint coming into my feild of veiw during my stroke, that that not having it the right spot with the longer shaft got into my head...lol. How sad am I...
I carry an extension that came with my cue purchase but very very rarely use it. It does add a few ounces at least. Simply not having my cue at the 'right' angle when attempting to chalk up is enough for me to never keep it on during play.
As to playing with longer cues. I can't speak for pros or to their abilities, but I have to imagine the bulk of this length must be at the back end. I attempted to play with a shaft a mere 1" longer and couldn't do it...lol. I had gotten so used to the joint coming into my feild of veiw during my stroke, that that not having it the right spot with the longer shaft got into my head...lol. How sad am I...
I carry an extension that came with my cue purchase but very very rarely use it. It does add a few ounces at least. Simply not having my cue at the 'right' angle when attempting to chalk up is enough for me to never keep it on during play.
DeeDeeCues
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I'm 6'3". I see no advantage in a longer cue. I use about nine different cues and only two are 60" or longer. I learned a long time ago that the elbow on my bridge arm bends, which allows me to grip the cue in the handle area. Weird.
I think it comes down to feel as opposed to a requirement. On a 58" cue, my grip hand rests off the wrap if my right elbow is at a 90 degree angle, my chin is on the cue, and my left arm is fully extended with my bridge hand 6" from the cue ball. There's nothing wrong with this, but it means I have to change my posture if I need a 10" bridge--e.g., lift my head, bend one of my arms, etc.
Keep in mind that the standard 58" cue design is over 100 years old and was made for shorter players who stood upright with a bent right elbow. Here's Willie's ideal stance, which is nothing like that taught today (but the cue is the same).
It's a lot like golf. I can play fine with little kid clubs. But it "feels" better to play with club lengths that match my frame.
Rusty in Montana
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I have one cue over 60" that was made for me year's ago and it's fun to shoot with when I'm playing on a 4 1/2 x 9 table bar boxes too when there's plenty of space around the table for when the cue ball is on the rail .
I'd guess it's around 64" overall length .
I'd guess it's around 64" overall length .
Cause they have longer arms than you.
I am 6' 5" and played a lot of pool with my right hand at the end of the cue. I now play with a 4 ounce 6 inch extension on my 20 ounce cue and love it, except when a wall gets in the way and I have to either use a house cue or remove the extension for the shot.
Would some rules regarding breaking down the cue cause me to lose a tournament or league match? I am guessing it would depend on the opponent if I were to forget to call a ref first.
Would some rules regarding breaking down the cue cause me to lose a tournament or league match? I am guessing it would depend on the opponent if I were to forget to call a ref first.
Rusty in Montana
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Some of us don't want to use a granny to help reach a shot when left long by whomever we're playing against too .
An extension, even a very light one, that attaches to the butt like the pic you posted, moves the balance point back, not forward.
pj <- just picking a nit
chgo
Correct, but depending on where you grip on the new cue it might change one way or the other. I showed the math in a later post.