Longer cues

I am 5’ 9” with longer arms and I like a 59-60 inch cue. I do have a 8-10” extension when I need to stretch, but I do not like using it full time. Too big and heavy. I’m sure I could get used to it, but it’s just not necessary
 
I just talked to Mike and he talked to Earl on the phone just a couple hours ago.

Earl is having Mike make him a 14mm backup shaft like the one he already has.

Mine is in the works.

I have been playing with 14mm shafts for over 50 years.

Earl just recently switched to them.

That boy is a little slow, I'm telling you! :)
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Eddie, here is some pics of what I experimented with. I have since taken it off as it interfered at times with the seating in our pool league. I do prefer it on though. I now use Rick roper carbon extensions with his quick detach replacement bumper. They are really nice and incredibly light, and can be made in any length desired. May take a couple of posts for all pics. Just so there is no confusion, I now only use the extension when needed.

Eddie, here is some pics of what I experimented with. I have since taken it off as it interfered at times with the seating in our pool league. I do prefer it on though. I now use Rick roper carbon extensions with his quick detach replacement bumper. They are really nice and incredibly light, and can be made in any length desired. May take a couple of posts for all pics. Just so there is no confusion, I now only use the extension when needed.
I would like to have something similar to that, about 3" long made out of some type of wood so I can glue it on.
 
So I have a predator butt, cuetec shaft and the 3" extension I use on it all the time.

Ordered the cue at 18 ounces. Could get slightly lighter with no weight bolt but with extension its about 20. Overall it's about 61"

The weight is easy to adjust to and the added length is the nuts even on small tables. I also have a 12" extension I use frequently.

I like the cuetec double extensions idea where one screws into the other for long shots. If I was cue shopping I would consider it.
 
I am 5'9" and my arms measure 6' in width. Played with a 59 inch cue for years and recently purchased a balance rite extension. For anyone that is not familiar with them it is a mid cue extension.

My cue now measures 63" from butt to tip not including the tip or butt plug. I have no clue where the balance point in now not do I care.

When I play I hold the cue where it feels familiar and comfortable to me. I just naturally hold the cue at that point and play with no concern to it's length or balance point.

I can reach long shots better and my draw has increased. The only adjustment I am making is being aware that my draw is better now and adjusting for it. That is due to the fact the extra length is helping me go thru the cue ball better, nothing more or less than that.

My next cue is going to be 60" or 62" split evenly. I have yet to decide which length I will go with...

Cues of this length are not a new idea. A good player I know I'm Chicago owns an original Gus Szamboti made for him that is 62" split evenly..
 
I just talked to Mike and he talked to Earl on the phone just a couple hours ago.

Earl is having Mike make him a 14mm backup shaft like the one he already has.

Mine is in the works.

I have been playing with 14mm shafts for over 50 years.

Earl just recently switched to them.

That boy is a little slow, I'm telling you! :)
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Man that’s crazy / interesting!!!!! I’ve always shot with conical shaft whittled down to 11.8 at the tip. I saw Michael Coltrain in1991 playing the 12 ball ghost with a 11.5mm shaft . I hit with it and was hooked . I’m interested in the 14mm just to see the difference!!!
 
My cue now measures 63" from butt to tip not including the tip or butt plug.

I can reach long shots better and my draw has increased. The only adjustment I am making is being aware that my draw is better now and adjusting for it. That is due to the fact the extra length is helping me go thru the cue ball better, nothing more or less than that.
For any given set of conditions/equipment there are only three things that affect how much draw you are getting:
-the angle of the cue
-the speed of the hit
-how low you hit the cue ball.

Which of those three things is what you are calling "go thru the cue ball better" that you say is giving you the better draw?
 
It feels good at the start and it has some benefits like you feel the hand is going straight + you could draw easier with less power. However, in the grand scheme of things, I think the negative outweighs the positive. I feel that they really believe that this longer cue is benefiting them and it's true they believe this which has some psychological effect added with the advantage that I've told previously which is true BUT in reality, they would do better in the normal length cue.

Jayson used to have better results with his Meucci normal length cue.
Shane used to have better results with his older Cuetec normal length cue.
Earl used to have better results with his normal length cue "Cuetec".

Most other guys who use normal length cues are doing better, Albin, Filler, and a lot of the rest.

Some players who used to be using the extension in the butt have removed them and seem to be performing better.

Check stats.
Well I ordered one , we gonna see !!!!!
 
I’m wondering how they ( Shane , Jayson and Earl ) have cues 64-66” that are not over 20oz ? If the cues are over 20oz , how heavy and how they adjusted, like them and anyone else here tried it ? Thanks 😊
I had a Palmer with 7 shafts of different lengths, from 57.5 to 61". Kept forcing the issue with the longer lengths, because the length felt so natural, but eventually I'd always come back to the 57.5".
 
Weight of cue is dependent on materials used to build it. Woods all weigh different. Metal joints are heavier than other materials. Bolts and screws of different material or size varies. So cuemaker can make some adjustment by understanding weights of materials he uses in building cue to make it lighter or heavier and also change balance point.
 
I've never tried an extra long cue that didn't hit softly and terribly. If for some reason I wanted a long cue like that, I'd certainly have it made out of carbon. Wooden cues longer than 60 inches usually feel like overcooked spaghetti. A 14mm shaft would maybe make them slightly more acceptable.
 
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I've never tried an extra long cue that didn't hit softly and terribly. If for some reason I wanted a long cue like that, I'd certainly have it made out of carbon. Wooden cues longer than 60 inches usually feel like overcooked spaghetti. A 14mm shaft would maybe make them slightly more acceptable.

Were those with shafts over 30 inches or with 29/30 inch shafts with 30+ inch butts? Its an interesting engineering problem to identify the point a long cue loses suitable rigidity and if cue design (A joint, coring, full splice, joint, etc) changes that result.
 
Were those with shafts over 30 inches or with 29/30 inch shafts with 30+ inch butts? Its an interesting engineering problem to identify the point a long cue loses suitable rigidity and if cue design (A joint, coring, full splice, joint, etc) changes that result.
The long shaft ones are usually worse. The best one I tried was custom made 32-32. It was still bad, but better than the others. It had a wider joint, which I think helps. The taper was maybe different too, I can't remember. You certainly can't expect a long pro taper to work in this application.
 
Wife and I play with wood 30" shafts. The main shafts we use are Jacobys Ultra 12.75 mm, but I also play with a Schon 30" that I have taken down to 12.6 mm, and a DZ with his 30" wood shaft at 12.85 mm. I have put Ultraskin med black tips on the Jacobys and the DZ. The Schon has their stock tip and I think it is a Tiger. All wood shafts are different, and by a good margin, the Schon has the most crisp hit, even after taking it down to 12.6 mm from the 13 mm it was. I really don't notice any difference from how it was as 13 mm. I also have 3 stock Schon shafts at 29" and all have an incredably crisp hit in comparison to other wood shafted cues that I have owned. Not all wood shafts are noodles.
 
Lots are playing with extensions and not a full length wood cue. The 6 inch cuetec extension is 2oz.


I like the longer cues as I'm taller with long arms. The light weight extensions do move the balance point forward, but I'm not sure that makes any difference to anyone.
I weighed mine on an accurate scale.
The 6" extension is 2.1 oz
The 3" is 1.58 oz and is the one I leave on the cue all the time, even on 7' tables.
 
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