It's Not the same game...

jasonlaus said:
Have played on Gandy, Brunswick, Diamond, etc. No issues whatsoever. When I play now it's on an Anniversary from around 63 or 64 I think. My 10' in storage is from 1923, I have no idea what you're talking about that tables were shorter???

I think a bunch of you must be so fat that you're entire life is difficult.
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Thank you for that... Guy
 
straightline said:
Injuries aside, down on the stick, way back grip, just simplifies the whole process. Aiming is easier*, shooting is easier**, speed control is easier***.

* Every thing is right out in front of you referencing itself. If you're one of those that needs to look at the pocket, TS. When you're down to shoot is too late.

**With a long bridge, you simply put the tip up to the cue ball - on the aim line of course. Now you have learned the impact coordinates. To shoot, pull cue back and stroke the cue linearly forward to where the tip started. The strike is almost a given.

*** The longer the stroke the higher the resolution of thrust you can apply. Like throwing a ball, or horseshoes, or cornhole bean bag...

On injuries, take your time getting in and out of position. Read up on taking care of your back.
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Thats a good one... Guy
 
mrpiper said:
I hold the cue farther back w my CF cue. It has a different pivot point so I moved back. I then learned that doing this decreases my elbow drop quite a bit. I now use a back grip on any cue.

My aim and alignment is done while I am standing so I don't really lose anything getting down on the cue. I just make micro adjustments and go.

Finally, at 58 and having played over 35 years I still have no physical limitation for shooting. That may change of course but until it does I am very pleased with my game. It works very well for me. I wish the same for everyone else.
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Thank you for that read... Guy
 
Guy Manges said:
I know thats not supposed to be funny, but I laugh... Guy
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Laugh and the world laughs with you. I can manage the back issue. After a while it loosens up. But my eyes….my eyewear gets bigger and thicker each year. They’re starting to resemble the Hubble.
 
jasonlaus said:
Have played on Gandy, Brunswick, Diamond, etc. No issues whatsoever. When I play now it's on an Anniversary from around 63 or 64 I think. My 10' in storage is from 1923, I have no idea what you're talking about that tables were shorter???

I think a bunch of you must be so fat that you're entire life is difficult.
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I am not fat and I guarantee the Diamond tables are up higher than the Brunswick and the Gandys were even lower.

However your 10' is probably a little higher than a normal 9' brunswick.
 
Guy Manges said:
Wonder if thats why the best players in the last few years have gone to a longer bridge ?
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It might be a wash. What I mean is a longer bridge length (pivot point) can magnify errors. But at the same time, lengthening the distance between the bridge hand and grip hand can negate that a little. Getting down low in the shot makes it easy to get that increased lenght.
 
GoldCrown said:
Laugh and the world laughs with you. I can manage the back issue. After a while it loosens up. But my eyes….my eyewear gets bigger and thicker each year. They’re starting to resemble the Hubble.
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I put my sock on the other day and my big toe nail was trying to come off... I just can't remember what that has to do with pool... Guy
 
buckshotshoey said:
It might be a wash. What I mean is a longer bridge length (pivot point) can magnify errors. But at the same time, lengthening the distance between the bridge hand and grip hand can negate that a little. Getting down low in the shot makes it easy to get that increased lenght.
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I watch a lots of pro pool games and the lower we get on cue then the more we miss seeing lots of the table, This is a fact... Guy
 
Stand upright, table bridge hand not required, plenty of cue to grip where you want.
If you drop your elbow you'll take down a 747.
 
buckshotshoey said:
That statement confuses me a bit. Why do you need to see more of the table while down on a shot?
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Buck Shot, I read you're posts and always do and enjoy...
I had to go back on this to when I was young. My Dad said inorder to be good at this game, You must be able to see the table... what he meant was in the Zone, When we are in the zone we are seeing the table... My Dad said that to be good at this game, You must square yourself to the table... What he meant was On your approach into the shot, stay firm with your Balance, Stay down and Never rush... It took me many years to understand just what he was saying consciously...
So here I go and not meant to offend end in anyway...
Watch a thousand pro pool matches and this answer, I hope that you will see the answer... Guy
 
Guy Manges said:
Buck Shot, I read you're posts and always do and enjoy...
I had to go back on this to when I was young. My Dad said inorder to be good at this game, You must be able to see the table... what he meant was in the Zone, When we are in the zone we are seeing the table... My Dad said that to be good at this game, You must square yourself to the table... What he meant was On your approach into the shot, stay firm with your Balance, Stay down and Never rush... It took me many years to understand just what he was saying consciously...
So here I go and not meant to offend end in anyway...
Watch a thousand pro pool matches and this answer, I hope that you will see the answer... Guy
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So you meant "seeing" the table not in a literal sense, but in a "minds eye" sort of way?
 
You see the table while standing and surveying/analyzing your play. If you could sit on top of the light you
wouldn't have to walk as much.
Drop down, pocket ball, send it with your eyes.
Rinse and repeat, it's very simple concept.
I agree with squaring up, not as much to view the layout but more for the shot alignment and the cue ball tracks, definitely square up, no looking around the corner for the bus.

Knowledge is power, as long as you have the physical tools working.
It takes table time, day in and day out, working on what works best for you. Head up or down, eyes, knees bent not bent, grips, bridges, etc.
You can recite the constitution with your book knowledge or written instruction by experts and be a D player for life, even longer.

The mechanics for pocketing the ball and controlling the cue ball is where the work is.
If you have a stroke and know the cue ball you can be a contender, everything else is easy to learn.
As far as staying down, send the cue ball and maintain your core, it's easy peasey.
And always bring your straight stroke, don't leave home without it.
 
Guy Manges said:
Bummer...
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yep. but it's not like any player will revert to playing standing up like alex higgins just to avoid injury. alex was an amazing talent despite his high stance but he wouldn't come close to qualifying for any pro snooker event today and would have a tough time on the amateur tour. (snooker nostalgiacs doesn't love to hear that, but it's true)
 
buckshotshoey said:
So you meant "seeing" the table not in a literal sense, but in a "minds eye" sort of way?
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So much of this games is seeing in a subconscious way... Did you watch Shane shooting ,blind, for an exhibition eyes closed... On youtube
skogstokig said:
yep. but it's not like any player will revert to playing standing up like alex higgins just to avoid injury. alex was an amazing talent despite his high stance but he wouldn't come close to qualifying for any pro snooker event today and would have a tough time on the amateur tour. (snooker nostalgiacs doesn't love to hear that, but it's true)
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It's not the same games... Guy
 
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