Balance point joint weights

dquarasr

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I have two vintage Adams cues. One has a plastic joint; the other a metal joint. They are both 5/16-18 and weigh nearly the same. The metal joint gives a slightly better balance point, feels better at the bridge hand.

To make the balance point equal, I am considering for the butt with the plastic joint joint balance weights such as this:
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Some questions:
- should I bother? Pros and cons?
- anyone know how to weigh the cues beforehand to determine which weight (3g, 8, or 10) will give the same balance point? I know I can test them trial and error but I’d prefer to know before I buy (yeah, $5 won’t break the bank if it doesn’t work).
- better alternatives?

Thanks.
 
The balance point will move only slightly without a significant weight shift. Adding some at the joint will be the most effective. Especially if you can remove a little at the back at the same time.
 
Sheldon said:
The balance point will move only slightly without a significant weight shift. Adding some at the joint will be the most effective. Especially if you can remove a little at the back at the same time.
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That would allow me to maintain overall cue weight. Thanks.
 
If I wanted to maintain the weight and move the balance forward I would ask a qualified cue maker to remove the joint pin and add some weight below it exactly like a rear weight bolt works. Then remove the appropriate amount from the rear. It should be easy enough once the pin is out with the skill and proper equipment. Drill ,tap, insert set screw, install joint screw.. It may not be cost effective though depending on the value of the cue.
Or just do what I usually do, just remove some weight from the back until it has a nice balanced feel and live with whatever the cue weighs once it balances nicely. It usually works out fine since a well balanced cue seems to feel good at almost any weight.
 
Zerksies said:
Adjusting the weight bolt changes the balance point slightly in a cue.
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I should post some pictures of a few of the UN believable weight bolts I have taken out of cues. some are around 4-5 oz. Not kidding. I have the remains of some that I cut down that are still 2-3 oz.
 
jayman said:
I should post some pictures of a few of the UN believable weight bolts I have taken out of cues. some are around 4-5 oz. Not kidding. I have the remains of some that I cut down that are still 2-3 oz.
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Ever pull a 4-5" long chunk of rebar out of one? :ROFLMAO:
 
Funny you should ask ,Yes, A bar cue with a heck of a rattle, and a McDermott cue. The bar cue had a wooden plug pushed in against it to keep it in place that backed out a bit creating a rattle, and the McD had an odd white substance that apparently cured around it to set it in place. When I went to take a bit of weight off the butt I could not believe what I was seeing. I think I may have even started a thread on that one.
 
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dquarasr said:
anyone know how to weigh the cues beforehand to determine which weight (3g, 8, or 10) will give the same balance point? I know I can test them trial and error but I’d prefer to know before I buy
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If you know the cue weights and balance points, it isn't a hard calculation. I can't explain it well in text but if you can provide that information, I can show you. Having the weights of the individual pieces would be helpful.
 
tomatoshooter said:
If you know the cue weights and balance points, it isn't a hard calculation. I can't explain it well in text but if you can provide that information, I can show you. Having the weights of the individual pieces would be helpful.
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Agreed, switching from a SS 3/8 x 10 modified to an aluminum 3/8 x 10 modified removed almost exactly 1 oz, from there one could calculate the changes.
 
Sheldon said:
Ever pull a 4-5" long chunk of rebar out of one? :ROFLMAO:
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Was it one of the infamous Cannon Break Cues. Everyone Ioved Dick, but there was not secret to what he doing, but the league player were sucking it up. go with the masses and the ones that spend the money
 
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