dendweller
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He's an asshat who obviously can't win the way you're supposed to.
Have I come across the ultimate nit?
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Flakeandrun
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My initial thoughts were as such. I am really glad my friend was there and had my back (also glad for my friend who was the referee, as it really put him between a rock and a hard place)
So you’re at the table shooting and I’m 20 feet behind you standing quietly at the jukebox breaking down my cue .. how was I misbehaving? Stupid rule!
dendweller
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pass
Might want to rethink headphones. Do you think this affected how others perceived you? Did the way you appeared affect the culture/ face issue? Not just asking rhetorically, but I think the headphones may have affected how others perceived your actions. Maybe not.
smiling_Hans
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How stupid or bad of a player someone
I change it at the bar. People make a deal about changing shafts but will wait 5 minutes for an opponent to get his or her beer.
I believe you should be able to change it but when it’s your turn or out of sight for good etiquette. Changing at the bar is the best way because if they call you out then you know they are petty as hell.
Changing a shaft is like going to the bathroom now. Have to do it behind the scenes. Can’t do in public. Pool police will bust you. LOL
That’s what I do.
I change it at the bar. People make a deal about changing shafts but will wait 5 minutes for an opponent to get his or her beer.
I believe you should be able to change it but when it’s your turn or out of sight for good etiquette. Changing at the bar is the best way because if they call you out then you know they are petty as hell.
Changing a shaft is like going to the bathroom now. Have to do it behind the scenes. Can’t do in public. Pool police will bust you. LOL
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I’ve played money games before where I’m shooting the 9 ball and the player breaks down his cue and then I miss. Instead of him having to put it back together I just let him use mine. I remember playing a game, I broke down my cue, and then he missed. He left me a hanger so I just used his break cue to pocket it.
Flakeandrun
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Nah, unlikely. 90% of people here are wearing headphones or bashing their phone in a match. So I don't think it has anything to do with it.
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Flakeandrun
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I wouldn't be letting that slide in a money game. You're a better man than me haha
Flakeandrun
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Next time I'll hammer it into the floor. You might have solved the issue! haha
Flakeandrun
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Medium MW Supertip. Feels so much better and it's nowhere near played in.
(chap in the picture is my friend and saviour, before anyone calls me out for standing behind his shot
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(chap in the picture is my friend and saviour, before anyone calls me out for standing behind his shot
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Mr Machine
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Saving/keeping face is such an interesting concept and very strange to us westerners.
I was told that however bad you feel embarrassing yourself, it is much worse to embarrass another.
Fair assessment?
Could that guy have been asserting dominance?
Laying groundwork for future interactions?
I was told that however bad you feel embarrassing yourself, it is much worse to embarrass another.
Fair assessment?
Could that guy have been asserting dominance?
Laying groundwork for future interactions?
Last time something like this happened, I asked the opponent ahead of time (when he wasn't shooting) if I could change my shaft. He suggested we ask the ref, who said it was okay in that particular case. Had I done it while my opponent was shooting, I think that would have been wrong of me.I was playing in a small tournament this afternoon/evening - Field of 32. I won the first game 7-1, even while I played like trash. I blamed this performance on the new shaft I am using, an ACSS M Musashi 12.5mm, which came with a rock hard Kamui black on the end (I think). I got it for a steal, and thought I'd give it a whirl in this semi-serious tournament in place of my Musashi VI 12.8mm which has a medium Moori. It just felt horrible and I moaned about it quite a lot, to just about anyone who would listen, in a generally quite jovial way. I was in quite a good mood considering I really did not play anything like I wanted to.
Come second game, and I am still playing pretty poorly, with a few exasperated table taps and some pouting (can't help myself). I am playing a guy who I'd actually chatted with a fair bit while waiting around... I came back from 3-1 down, and the score is now set at 5-3. At this point, I had enough of this rock solid tip and took my old shaft from my cue case, and put it on the chair, unscrewed my cue in order to put the old shaft back on. This was at the end of the rack, not mid-frame... The guy calls to the floor referee who is working all the tables for the light off, and goes to shake my hand... Now I am super confused at this point and I think he is conceding to me... so I begin to shake his hand. Referee comes over and asks who won, and he claims it... 15 minutes of confused bickering follows.
I explained I took my old shaft out of my case to put it onto my cue. The guy I am playing knew I had been moaning about the new shaft, as I'd spent half an hour sat next to him waiting for the game. I even showed him the shaft... Both he and the referee just cling hard to language barrier issues and crack out the phone translation like they can't understand me (they absolutely can). They basically cite the 'breaking your cue down is a forfeiture' line.
Now, I fully get that breaking the cue down is a forfeiture, and generally stops people from sharking someone when they're on the last ball (My understanding, is that it could cause someone to dog match ball, and it would be bullshit to screw your cue back together and swoop in). But this guy... would not relent. if it wasn't for a close friend of mine helping me to see the pathetically funny side of it, I probably would have gone full sourpuss and loudly questioned his 'face' (culturally people don't like to be loudly called into question here, probably would have got me on his life-long Hitlist, or a beating in the carpark
It was incredibly obvious I was just switching the shaft in my opinion. People stop mid-rack to screw together a jump cue when required... So I can't switch a shaft in-between racks? I am genuinely amazed anyone would be happy to take that as a win.
Anyway, I hung around to watch him get demolished by the aforementioned close friend, and did enjoy some exaggerated celebration after. Then came home and thought I'd vent about it here. Anything like this happened to any of you??
Wooldridge Supertip is going on the ACSS shaft tomorrow. The current tip almost feels phenolic it's so freaking hard.
Yeah nobody played the chicken sh*t stuff cause at the end of the night you still have to make it to the truck
IMO, in a tournament match, it’s very poor pool etiquette to be away from table at the jukebox while your opponent is at the table shooting. You should be seated in a chair close to the table, observing quietly until it is your turn.
Once it is your turn, that would be the appropriate time to inform your opponent you are switching shafts and not conceding the match.
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Just lean in and quietly ask him if he really wants to be constantly worrying about his brake lines rupturing, or his house catching fire in the middle of the night, or his boss getting tipped off about drugs in his desk at work...He'll shut up about the shaft....
Guess that would depend on the type of pool tournament you’re in. I’ve been in some that have a dress code, others where the ref had to drag the fat drunk lady, who was mooning the players, out of my shot line.. uppity is as uppity does sir!
Flakeandrun
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Yeah, I agree. I don't think it's acceptable to do anything but sit and watch when the opponent is at the table. I get annoyed with people looking at their phone. I don't think I did anything wrong, but still, will have to learn to think like a nit. Be a bit proactive.