Then if that’s what you going to don’t waste my time.
I think Pat also gave the break to the other player back then when he won the lag.
This happens often playing Chinese friends on American tables (whether 8/9 or 10 ball). They are familiar with drawing the cueball back, as opposed to stopping it center table, I believe in order to obtain the correct amount of balls passed a certain point when they are playing Chinese-8 ball. IF they don't make a ball, it's a pretty tall order to run out.
Chinese-8 ball sees this method employed a lot, or they hammer it from the side. There is no real effort made to control the cueball center table. When they are playing American table games in my local, they are always hitting the headball, full in the face with backspin (winding up like they're about to hit it 1000mph.... and some of them do to be fair), leaving the cueball on the head rail. If they don't make a ball, it is a real pain in the ass to step into.
Might not be correct, but my 8 ball break lands the cb behind the headstring probably 80% of the time. If not more. Every once in a while it hits off the back rail and goes middle. It’s a matter of opinion really. Thats where I’m used to it being. On the back rail even a lot of times. When it’s open after the break you still have plenty of options too. Most of the time. And I’m one of the best 8 ball players I know with a higher B&R% than most the people I play. But that’s also breaking wide open. Forget that safe break crap. I’m going for the out!
The second ball break used to make the 8 in the side (on occasion) when struck to Mosconi's prescription. It statistically makes a very technical layout. Lots of little nudges or blockages. Giving advantage to experience and fine cueball control over power. Not always successful but often an 8 ball champ's choice.
Playing 6 ball, you can have the break.
Why though? Understanding the power needed to get a good spread is relative to a table. I understand taking a break or two to figure that out on a table that is foreign to you. Just bashing the ever living fuck out of it is careless. White ball needs to be as consistent as possible in leaving a ball.
That's a horrible place to be, can you stop the ball center table? Or do you not trust yourself to clean, or break clusters and want some kind of safety options?
Love this confidence
I go into every break assuming I will finish when playing 8-ball. I assume most players of a certain speed, or who are mostly playing 8-ball do. Unless there's multiple clusters, I would not put much consideration to safety in 8-ball on a 9ft American table.
I've taken a liking to this in my local bar since I read about it on here. That was a much appreciated tip for the back pocket.
I play in some alternate break tourneys. It's the only time I say "have at it"
By my definition the key ball is the last before the 8 ball. The run out is planned from the 8 ball back. Selection of key ball is the first step in making the plan. There are occasions that imperfections lead to revision of the plan.
My base rule is before I make a ball, have a plan to make them all. Dealing with obstacles first or early makes for a better leverage if safety becomes necessary.
Sry Flake. I had to delete. If you had a chance to read it cool. Otherwise sry. Thats the game no one has seen in a while. Everyone is so lame sometimes, and I gotta stay Wolfy.Why though? Understanding the power needed to get a good spread is relative to a table. I understand taking a break or two to figure that out on a table that is foreign to you. Just bashing the ever living fuck out of it is careless. White ball needs to be as consistent as possible in leaving a ball.
That's a horrible place to be, can you stop the ball center table? Or do you not trust yourself to clean, or break clusters and want some kind of safety options?
Love this confidence
I go into every break assuming I will finish when playing 8-ball. I assume most players of a certain speed, or who are mostly playing 8-ball do. Unless there's multiple clusters, I would not put much consideration to safety in 8-ball on a 9ft American table.
I did give it a once over before it vanished. Woof woofSry Flake. I had to delete. If you had a chance to read it cool. Otherwise sry. Thats the game no one has seen in a while. Everyone is so lame sometimes, and I gotta stay Wolfy.
Whatever works, works.
8 ball the person going for the initial out loses something like 67% of the time I believe the stat was so maybe he wants to let them with the early run .
Interesting. Where is that stat from?8 ball the person going for the initial out loses something like 67% of the time I believe the stat was so maybe he wants to let them with the early run .
Read it a long time ago and man with all the reading and pool instruction I’ve read and watched in 35 years of playing I can’t remember lol but it stuck with me.
