No bias APA vs BCA

I agree with "since the beginning of time" but not the sales aspect, at least not for the way Mike Page used the term. I'm pretty sure he used the term to mean, "a person in the room who the others look up to and listen to and respect his opinion." In the particular case of a league doing well, if Willie is constantly cutting the league down and saying the LO is a thief and the players are all sandbaggers, then the league will not do as well as if Willie tells the new players that the league will give them good competition and improve their game. What Mike said was:
I wasn't responding to Mike's use of the word. I was responding to what Coos Cues and garczar were saying - that internet influencer isn't a legitimate job.
 
And people's daughters from all over get naked to get paid. The world is a crazy place.
What does that have to do with YouTube lol and who cares if it’s someone’s daughter if it’s an adult women. my daughter can do whatever she chooses without judgement.
 
I wasn't responding to Mike's use of the word. I was responding to what Coos Cues and garczar were saying - that internet influencer isn't a legitimate job.
either is running a pool league but I guess your making a living doing it. Wtf that’s like saying being an actor or singer isn’t a legit job. They are entertainers just like you tubers.
 
Ok, my 2 cents... <- as a 7/9 in APA and 13~14 in ACS/BCA

IF you can't handle losing, then play APA. As a top player, the odds of losing a race to whatever is significantly lower than a single rack in ACS. With ACS/BCA you simply need to be ok with having an otherwise flawless evening of play producing a personal score of 34 out of a potential 85. Just the way the league works.

If you can't handle drama unassociated to actual game play, then play ACS/BCA. It's crazy but simply removing the orchestration of match ups that always seems to be the main focus in APA, makes an ACS/BCA evening run so much smoother. Everyone knows they will be playing everyone else in the opponent's roster, so that one element makes the night that much more enjoyable.

Regarding wait times... APA is the longer night. IF you happen to be a player that's catered to. You may be able to manipulate your captain into playing you first no matter what, and then if you have zero interest in supporting your teammates you can bugger off. Otherwise expect a 5hr campaign. ACS/BCA runs faster. Less opportunities for time outs, etc... Sure depending where you land in the order and if you're the visiting team, you may have a single loong wait, but that's it. My ACS night is never longer than 3hrs.

Which is tougher...? Well that depends on how good you are. I find APA infinitely easier, but again I'm at the top of the local food chain so the odds of me dropping a race are slim. ACS/BCA has that single rack element. So a single error can cost you that rack. Assuming if you even get a chance at the table. I will say that I believe the focus of players is higher within the ACS/BCA format because of the "do or die" nature of the single rack. Those losing believe it's "harder" because of the lack of opportunity.

Why I play ACS/BCA rather than APA. Well I can't be bothered with drama. I just want to compete, and I don't like having my time wasted. I also have this superpower that allows me to stomach losing single racks without it bothering me. In ACS/BCA I get to exchange pleasantries with literally everyone that plays in the league. In APA I only meet those who the captains deem I should be playing. Locally, my ACS LO maxes out his leagues and there's a wait list to get in. The local APA LO will accept anyone that has a team and will rotate the teams through nearby dives with valley BBs just to increase his revenue.

For purely competitive pool, the best format I've come across is the APA Masters. Mixed race, with rules that more closely match how the games are meant to be played. That said, in Masters, the players are like minded and those lower on the food chain know their place and don't whine about it. There is some minor orchestration of match ups, but if that matters then you're not winning anyway.
 
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I wasn't responding to Mike's use of the word. I was responding to what Coos Cues and garczar were saying - that internet influencer isn't a legitimate job.
When the feces hits the rotating oscillator it will be quickly evident who has a useful skill set and who does not.

Influencers dig.

 
"Influencers" have been around since the beginning of time. They were previously (and still are) called "spokespeople". Their job is to build a reputation and try to use that reputation to influence people to buy stuff, and the companies who pay them are paying for endorsements. Tiger Woods made most of his fortune as an influencer (he didn't really like Nike), Patrick Mahomes is using it to circumvent the salary cap so he can get better players around him. He's taking it one step further, by getting endorsement deals for others. I don't buy insurance because Patrick Mahomes endorses it, but some people must, so it's worth it to State Farm to pay Mahomes, Reid, and Kelsey. This is no different, companies pick someone who appeals to their target audience.
All true and with people addicted to their fones its gone into hyperdrive. There are 'influencers' now that have never done a fkng thing other than run their piehole on the fone and people go for it. Complete braindead suckers.
 
Ok, my 2 cents... <- as a 7/9 in APA and 13~14 in ACS/BCA

IF you can't handle losing, then play APA. As a top player, the odds of losing a race to whatever is significantly lower than a single rack in ACS. With ACS/BCA you simply need to be ok with having an otherwise flawless evening of play producing a personal score of 34 out of a potential 85. Just the way the league works.

If you can't handle drama unassociated to actual game play, then play ACS/BCA. It's crazy but simply removing the orchestration of match ups that always seems to be the main focus in APA, makes an ACS/BCA evening run so much smoother. Everyone knows they will be playing everyone else in the opponent's roster, so that one element makes the night that much more enjoyable.

Regarding wait times... APA is the longer night. IF you happen to be a player that's catered to. You may be able to manipulate your captain into playing you first no matter what, and then if you have zero interest in supporting your teammates you can bugger off. Otherwise expect a 5hr campaign. ACS/BCA runs faster. Less opportunities for time outs, etc... Sure depending where you land in the order and if you're the visiting team, you may have a single loong wait, but that's it. My ACS night is never longer than 3hrs.

Which is tougher...? Well that depends on how good you are. I find APA infinitely easier, but again I'm at the top of the local food chain so the odds of me dropping a race are slim. ACS/BCA has that single rack element. So a single error can cost you that rack. Assuming if you even get a chance at the table. I will say that I believe the focus of players is higher within the ACS/BCA format because of the "do or die" nature of the single rack. Those losing believe it's "harder" because of the lack of opportunity.

Why I play ACS/BCA rather than APA. Well I can't be bothered with drama. I just want to compete, and I don't like having my time wasted. I also have this superpower that allows me to stomach losing single racks without it bothering me. In ACS/BCA I get to exchange pleasantries with literally everyone that plays in the league. In APA I only meet those who the captains deem I should be playing. Locally, my ACS LO maxes out his leagues and there's a wait list to get in. The local APA LO will accept anyone that has a team and will rotate the teams through nearby dives with valley BBs just to increase his revenue.

For purely competitive pool, the best format I've come across is the APA Masters. Mixed race, with rules that more closely match how the games are meant to be played. That said, in Masters, the players are like minded and those lower on the food chain know their place and don't whine about it. There is some minor orchestration of match ups, but if that matters then you're not winning anyway.
One thing to add: I asked about Master's Division, but never played. They play on small tables, as that's what happens in Vegas. It seems like in my favorite pool hall (half/half 7ft, 9ft) they prefer the small. Some nights they play on both. So, if you play one night, you don't know if 8 or 9 ball and neither if 7ft or 9ft.
 
In ACS/BCA I get to exchange pleasantries with literally everyone that plays in the league. In APA I only meet those who the captains deem I should be playing.
That seems...interesting.

Your captain prevents you from talking to other people in the room?
 
No.. Karens like you care who can’t mind their own business . Fortunately that’s not society. Just a select few holier then thoughs
You may be right about the leanings of today's western society. This is not however fortunate, it's tragic.
 
That seems...interesting.

Your captain prevents you from talking to other people in the room?
lol... no. I can of course speak to whoever I like outside of match play. :sneaky:

What I meant to describe is that the ACS/BCA format promotes match up exposure to all other members. Whereas the APA (the supposed social league) has you only ever matching up with who the captains decide. I can't speak for any other league location. However the top of the food chain in my area always play the usual suspects during team matches. There isn't any emphasis on social exposure. Despite what the advertisements say.
 
One thing to add: I asked about Master's Division, but never played. They play on small tables, as that's what happens in Vegas. It seems like in my favorite pool hall (half/half 7ft, 9ft) they prefer the small. Some nights they play on both. So, if you play one night, you don't know if 8 or 9 ball and neither if 7ft or 9ft.
Well that's region dependent so I didn't add anything regarding equipment. The leagues in my area are primarily played on 9ft. Excluding the spill over from over saturation.

...and of course you're 100% accurate on the ALL vegas events being played on 7ft.
 
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