My final design for a break cue

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dylanpool

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Are any pool cuemakers here interested in helping me create this pool cue? I am open to suggestions and critiques on the design. If interested, please private message me; I have all the measurements figured out. My budget for the construction of this cue is $3,500 - $4,000. For the white inlay tips on the forearm, I am happy with a total of 6 tips.
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dylanpool said:
Do they use that for pool cues?
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Predator uses almost exclusively automotive paint finishes now. I also mentioned this in my initial post about this topic..
The design you have there is can be done with Elforyn or Juma and ebony, African blackwood or any other wood you'd like in the forearm.
I see you now has changed the wording from jump/break to break cue, which is it?
 
Kim Bye said:
Predator uses almost exclusively automotive paint finishes now. I also mentioned this in my initial post about this topic..
The design you have there is can be done with Elforyn or Juma and ebony, African blackwood or any other wood you'd like in the forearm.
I see you now has changed the wording from jump/break to break cue, which is it?
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I have made it into a break cue since I changed its design. I also want to note that I used a rosewood, Bois de Rose, for the forearm. But considering how rare this wood is, I am open to another wood type and dye it that color.
 
Kim Bye said:
Predator uses almost exclusively automotive paint finishes now. I also mentioned this in my initial post about this topic..
The design you have there is can be done with Elforyn or Juma and ebony, African blackwood or any other wood you'd like in the forearm.
I see you now has changed the wording from jump/break to break cue, which is it?
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Mind if I ask how you would do the eight points with rounded bottoms?
 
DeeDeeCues said:
Mind if I ask how you would do the eight points with rounded bottoms?
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I was thinking more like 5 or 6 points for that. If I wanted 8 the points would have to be real skinny. And to get them to be round, I am not sure but hopefully, someone on this forum knows that answer
 
DeeDeeCues said:
Mind if I ask how you would do the eight points with rounded bottoms?
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That would have to be done on the CNC machine. It looks inspired by the Blackboar buttcap, just that the points are extended longer. For this design to be strong enough there would have to be a core that binds the two parts together. My CNC skills are definitely not at this level and I think the intricacy of this design would be costly.
 
Kim Bye said:
That would have to be done on the CNC machine. It looks inspired by the Blackboar buttcap, just that the points are extended longer. For this design to be strong enough there would have to be a core that binds the two parts together. My CNC skills are definitely not at this level and I think the intricacy of this design would be costly.
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My budget for the construction of the cue is around $3,500 - $4,000. And the black boar butt cap is one inspiration for this cue. Another inspiration I had for this design was an antique Harvey Martin ebony & ivory handle pool cue, and a Richard Black's Ivery Crown pool cue. Here are the images of what inspired me for the design:

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Kim Bye said:
That would have to be done on the CNC machine. It looks inspired by the Blackboar buttcap, just that the points are extended longer. For this design to be strong enough there would have to be a core that binds the two parts together. My CNC skills are definitely not at this level and I think the intricacy of this design would be costly.
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Thanks. I understood the inspiration, but even then, cutting points that tall how BB appears to do it would not be trivial due to how delicate the points will be, and the sharpness of the tips.

As for the core, definitely.
 
DeeDeeCues said:
Thanks. I understood the inspiration, but even then, cutting points that tall how BB appears to do it would not be trivial due to how delicate the points will be, and the sharpness of the tips.

As for the core, definitely.
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Should the tips be wider? Or maybe another material can be used for the white part? Or maybe the most pointy parts can be painted on? These ideas any good?
 
dylanpool said:
Should the tips be wider? Or maybe another material can be used for the white part? Or maybe the most pointy parts can be painted on? These ideas any good?
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If the tips were wider it wouldn't have the same look, but would be easier to do.

It's a complicated splice right there, I expect there are people who could figure it out, I might be able to, but I've never done it and I'd have to add a rotary axis to my machine.
 
DeeDeeCues said:
If the tips were wider it wouldn't have the same look, but would be easier to do.

It's a complicated splice right there, I expect there are people who could figure it out, I might be able to, but I've never done it and I'd have to add a rotary axis to my machine.
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Would you be willing to test it out on your machine to see how it would look?
 
DeeDeeCues said:
I'm not set up to do that and I'm not in a position to take the time to set up the fourth axis.

If I think of a way that I can get close, I'll let you know.
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Ok, thank you. I understand. Are there any other recommendations or critiques to the design you would like to add? How much do you think the construction of this cue will cost?
 
DeeDeeCues said:
Thanks. I understood the inspiration, but even then, cutting points that tall how BB appears to do it would not be trivial due to how delicate the points will be, and the sharpness of the tips.

As for the core, definitely.
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I agree, this a really delicate job and I think only a handful makers would have the skill to pull something like this off. I agree about the fragility of those points. If they where sharp instead it would be more straightforward. Pete Tonkin is the first maker that comes to mind.
 
Kim Bye said:
I agree, this a really delicate job and I think only a handful makers would have the skill to pull something like this off. I agree about the fragility of those points. If they where sharp instead it would be more straightforward. Pete Tonkin is the first maker that comes to mind.
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Thank you. Does Pete Tonkin have a website, email, or any other way of contacting him? How are his cues compared to others? Are there any other names that come to mind besides Pete?
 
Do a Google search and you should find his information. Don't think he accepts new orders at this point.
 
Kim Bye said:
Do a Google search and you should find his information. Don't think he accepts new orders at this point.
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Ok, thank you for the information. I looked him up but I am having trouble finding any way of contacting him so far. I looked him up and there are not-so-great reviews of him on these forums in regards to him keeping his promises on delivering cues to the customers lol.
 
Kim Bye said:
I agree, this a really delicate job and I think only a handful makers would have the skill to pull something like this off. I agree about the fragility of those points. If they where sharp instead it would be more straightforward. Pete Tonkin is the first maker that comes to mind.
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Vigus was my thought.

Thanks for the insightful responses.
 
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