How Important Is it to Own/Use a Break Cue

How Important Is it to Own/Use a Break Cue (9 Ball/8 Ball)


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Slow pitch softball is my wheelhouse. I coached and taught base hits can't be stopped. A home run that was a line drive that escaped was okay. A home run swing would get the hitter benched. Well placed line drives for a single was almost unstoppable.
I don't like it either but statistics and rule change force hitters to swing for the fences and striking out is part of it. Teams don't mind this. The idea is to play fast baseball similar to what the NBA is now. Pitchers are replaceable now.
 
i was talking about average players swinging for the fence. pros in all sports use different equipment and play the game differently than an average player should. and average players do try to emulate the pros. and that is a mistake.
 
Some players keep a break cue in their pool case. How necessary is this?

I don't think break cues are as important as many people make them out to be. And what it all comes down to is your level of play. If you're a pro or a competitive local player than yes, because a good break cue can give you a competitive edge. But if you're not a runout player to begin with, it's really meaningless to have an expensive break cue. You'll achieve pretty close to the same results from a house cue or a cheap $200 break cue, as opposed to spending $800 that some of these newer break cues cost.
 
It depends. If you're playing league 8 ball with a shitty triangle and opponent racks, you better be carrying something that will smack em hard.

If you're playing 9B off a template you could make the wing ball if you hit them with a q-tip.
100% agree with everything. I bought a cheap phenolic break cue because I found a guy that likes to play 8ball and straight pool. We don't use templates so I needed something to blast the ball because I wasn't going to use my shooting cue for it. We also have these two old timers who use the template rack and they pbreak softly to get the wing ball. You can do this with your shooting cue. I hate playing with them because of the template and the one on the spot rack. Most of the breaks result with most of the balls hanging out at one side of the table. The template sort of altered the game of 9b.

I honestly think we should get rid of these templates. It changes the complexity of the game.
 
People seem to buy the marketing and not the actual speed. Get the break speed app, it's cheap. I don't care how loud it is hitting the cue ball or how it feels, or phenolic tips, it's only about cue ball speed which means energy. I've never found any meaningful difference in cues for breaking and cue ball speed. It's all control and technique.
 
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Get the break speed app, it's cheap. I don't care how loud it is hitting the cue ball or how it feels, or phenolic tips, it's only about cue speed which means energy.
A break cue is worth it if it makes for a break with a loud crack and ball bouncing.

I downloaded the Predator Break Speed 6.2 app for $5 and I'll see if the combination-phenolic ferrule and tip on a Champion jump/break cue is better than using regular cues (sure as hell seems like its better to me).

An expensive alternative to finding speed will be the Digiball:
 
If you shoot with a carbon fiber shaft then you can break with it. That was the selling point of the shaft. Little maintenance, doesn't warp, strong, low deflection and you can break with it. That was the initial selling point. Till they found out they can make a carbon butt and call it a break cue and sell even more.
 
If you shoot with a carbon fiber shaft then you can break with it. That was the selling point of the shaft. Little maintenance, doesn't warp, strong, low deflection and you can break with it. That was the initial selling point. Till they found out they can make a carbon butt and call it a break cue and sell even more.
It's not the shaft, it comes down to the tip for breaking...
 
es and I also made mention of it on my previous post. I was just pointing out that a carbon break cue isn't any different than a shooting CF shaft besides tip.
Make an exception for the Cynergy carbon-fiber shaft because its ferrules can fail due to its softer material. See


For what its worth, a ferrule has much more surface area contacting the wood shaft than a vault plate contacting the carbon fiber rod.

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In the 60’s you broke with your cue and the were no jump cues, gloves or expensive chalk. We had one cue. We survived.
Yeah and replacing a tip was like 5bux max. This ain't the 60's anymore brother. No ones' gonna break with a good layered tip. Go to ANY tournament and count how many people are using their play cue to break with. Probably get all on one hand.
 
It's not the shaft, it comes down to the tip for breaking...
Without a doubt. The harder the tip the faster the ball speed. Too hard and control issues pop up. With my WhiteDiamond i get all the speed i need with control. I've done A/B test where i use house cue then my J&J j/b w/WD tip and its obvious that there's quite a bit more ball speed with the dedicated breaker. Cue and tip cost me all of about 140-150bux. See no need to pay more.
 
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Yeah and replacing a tip was like 5bux max. This ain't the 60's anymore brother. No ones' gonna break with a good layered tip. Go to ANY tournament and count how many people are using their play cue to break with. Probably get all on one hand.
I didn’t say they were doing it today. Your reading comprehension needs some work.
 
This conversation is typical. Typical Recreation players looking to improve by using high dollar equipment. High dollar cues, chalk and tips are common. I expect if the same money was directed towards lessons with a proper coach, the rewards would be greater and longer lasting. The New uplift is common with new expensive stuff. The new however does wear off and the shooters soon return to being Themselves. 🤷‍♂️
 
I didn’t say they were doing it today. Your reading comprehension needs some work.
WTF?? Relax brother. You reference the 60's in such a way it sounded like you were saying that what was good enough then still applies today. Right/wrong?? No need to get pissy but based on that avatar pic i'm not too surprised. ;) Chill brother. I grew up in the 60's and little if anything applies today. Sad fact for sure but its true. I miss 'em all the time.
 
This conversation is typical. Typical Recreation players looking to improve by using high dollar equipment. High dollar cues, chalk and tips are common. I expect if the same money was directed towards lessons with a proper coach, the rewards would be greater and longer lasting. The New uplift is common with new expensive stuff. The new however does wear off and the shooters soon return to being Themselves. 🤷‍♂️
Hey, some of us like shiny things even if they won't directly make us better. Look good, feel good, play good (maybe...).
 
Hey, some of us like shiny things even if they won't directly make us better. Look good, feel good, play good (maybe...).
For instant proof of that go to ANY golf driving range. Its odd how the worst players have the newest/shiniest stuff and the 'players' have a mixed bag of well used 'tools'. Pool is same way. Some of the league players i see have ALL the latest shit and still can't run four balls on a Valley with BIH. ;)
 
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