Pia Filler hates wood shafts

cueball2010

cueball2010

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I think this is the first time hearing this argument against using wood shafts. I have been thinking for a while of switching from my Revo to a 314 shaft so I can get more feedback. Maybe even keilwood. But apparently wood shafts play different depending on humidity. Humidity changes depending on the season and geo location. I mean humidity changes a lot all the time, like a rainy day. I would rather not add another inconsistency to playing pool if there is any truth to what she is saying?

 
It's a pool cue and anyone that is a good enough player can adapt.

Carbon, more or so, are made for beginners. Not saying advanced players can't play with them but it helps beginners with the learning curve.

I can spot a newbie based on the cue they are playing with. They're usually shooting with a carbon shaft and a measle cue ball.
 
billiards_watch said:
It's a pool cue and anyone that is a good enough player can adapt.

Carbon, more or so, are made for beginners. Not saying advanced players can't play with them but it helps beginners with the learning curve.

I can spot a newbie based on the cue they are playing with. They're usually shooting with a carbon shaft and a measle cue ball.
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At first I thought feedback might just be unnecessary noise in the palm. But now I'm starting to think it is brain trigger.

Carbon is good for beginners but I see most newbies shooting with wood, and I've never seen one bring a measle ball to the hall. I don't even think beginners know what the point of a measle ball is.

Anyway, I actually think Pia is full of shat, but how can the worlds best couple shooters be ill advised. No doubt they are adjusting to a soft hit on rainy days or whatever the difference in humidity is in China. But somewhere along the way they said fk it. I don't have to adapt with Carbon Fiber.
 
cueball2010 said:
At first I thought feedback might just be unnecessary noise in the palm. But now I'm starting to think it is brain trigger.

Carbon is good for beginners but I see most newbies shooting with wood, and I've never seen one bring a measle ball to the hall. I don't even think beginners know what the point of a measle ball is.

Anyway, I actually think Pia is full of shat, but how can the worlds best couple shooters be ill advised. No doubt they are adjusting to a soft hit on rainy days or whatever the difference in humidity is in China. But somewhere along the way they said fk it. I don't have to adapt with Carbon Fiber.
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This is an equipment driven era of pool. Everyone is into their equipment more than the game itself and I understand. It breaks the monotony of pocketing balls since you can experiment and try out new shooting cues. The cue ball is just another thing in the arsenal of pool.

I don't care actually and let the guy behind the counter give me a rack of balls whether with a blank cue ball or a measle ball. I like to play and adapt. It's fun.

I don't want to be that guy that won't play because he forgot his chalk, needs a measle ball or needs a glove. Nothing wrong with using these items but to solely rely on it and the determining factor of whether you play or not is absurd.

If someone asks you to play it is ok to say no because you don't have your cue but not what I mentioned above.
 
I believe that the wood used for pool cue shafts -- which start out as hard, dense, rock maple and have been turned down over the years -- is unaffected by humidity (and heat and cold) and any imagined changes are in the player's head and more of an excuse than anything else.

Plus, this is an old "talking point" put out by the carbon fiber manufacturers and you will hear it from any number of the professional players they sponsor.

Lou Figueroa
 
I bought the most expensive wood shaft out there now -the Hsunami 2.0 for about $500 - I love the shaft in terms of taper and smoothness - but it really does not change my game from normal quality wood shafts.

Your game is your game on a macro sense - you get an equation of your talent, your God given abilities of focus, eyesight, coordination and timing/rhythum - then you add determination and work ethic with proper training - the shaft is just a very small part of the equation - no matter what the shaft.
 
cueball2010 said:
I think this is the first time hearing this argument against using wood shafts. I have been thinking for a while of switching from my Revo to a 314 shaft so I can get more feedback. Maybe even keilwood. But apparently wood shafts play different depending on humidity. Humidity changes depending on the season and geo location. I mean humidity changes a lot all the time, like a rainy day. I would rather not add another inconsistency to playing pool if there is any truth to what she is saying?

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With all due respect to Pia, who gives a F###. :rolleyes:
 
Pff....I've said it on here 100 times, and I'll say it again: I've never seen ANY player improve as a result of switching to carbon. Most carbon fiber shafts give shitty feedback. It feels cheap, like the cheapest possible wood cue with a bad joint. The idea that a good wood shaft would play differently under different levels of humidity is lunacy. You'd need a supercomputer and a team of crack scientists to even try to separate this "effect" from all the other table/ball variables that are introduced by a humid environment.

But yeah, if you have 1k for a shaft or whatever outrageous price they command these days, go right ahead, if you can think of no better way to spend that money.
 
You can play with any cue and shaft.
Top players have done so for decades.

But, It doesn’t mean that just because something has been done for years, you shouldn’t embrace new things that are better and make life and playing pool easier. Or at least give it a good solid try before making up your mind and throw baseless facts in the air.

Most people don’t give anything a fair try, you might think that running a few racks is enough or setting up a few shots to make a solid opinion, But all you do is letting everything that you are used to, take over.
Play with a good CF shaft for 3-6 months, the. Go back to what you were used to, only then, you’ll know what works best for you.
Play with keilwood shaft for 3-6 month and again, go nack to what you were used to.
Same for every piece of equipment.

CF is the future, might as well get used to it.
This not for collectors, this is for players.
I think that kielwood is a hype that will pass, doesn’t come close to CF in performance. It’s just pretty…
If you are 75 years old and have enough wooden shaft to last until you’re dead, that’s fine, but that’s just being a grumpy old man, got nothing to do with pool.
Yes, there are pros that still use wood and prefer wood, that’s fine, they are just delaying the inevitable and prefer not to put in the time to get used to it.
 
By the way, this whole CF vs wood debate just reminds me the debates from 25 years ago of LD vs standard shafts.
Eventually the top players adapted to LD shafts and enjoyed their advantages.
Amateurs followed.
Collectors just collect… who cares

20 years from now, players will laugh at threads like this one.

Try to embrace progress, you’ve already accepted the 9 on the spot and that the 5 is purple and that a CueTec costs around $1000
 
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