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I totally agree, it should be in black and white, no second guessing that will put the ref in a difficult position.
US Open 08/18-23
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I totally agree, it should be in black and white, no second guessing that will put the ref in a difficult position.
I should have been more clear. I think Fedor had every right to question Baoanon's break speed if he thinks its against the rules. But all concerns should be made directly to the ref. This is what Fedor did after the break of the first rack, and I think that's perfectly fine to do so.
What is NOT fine is what Fedor did in the clip I posted. He blatantly mocked his opponent by asking the crowd if he should soft break in such a condescending manner, and then mockingly impersonated Baoanon's break stroke. WTF?
Would he have done such display if he was playing Biado, Filler, or Shaw? Probably not. It seems to me he thinks he can get away with completely insulting his opponent if it's one of the lesser known Filipinos.
I still think Gorst is the best player in the world. But now I'll be rooting against him for the remainder of the tournament.
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Gary Jones
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I don't disagree that there are ways and means to handle things and he didn't come out looking good in this exchange whatever the excuse.
I think there's some extra history between them from the first time they met in the tournament in the Winner's Qualification. Fedor gives a hint about it in his vlog here:
He mentions drama with rules and referees around 7:28 so...
None of that excuses his behaviour which was petty and starting to move towards verbally insulting / mocking which is the beginning of bullying. You are also probably right, there are likely people he wouldn't have done it against whether that was bigger names, people he interacts with more, or just physically bigger people!
CanadianGuy
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he's developed the ego and cocky attitude for sure
be American I guess, many of the great Americans had this, Sigel and Earl come to mind obviously
i dont mind it, I've long tired of the euro cookie cutter types
be American I guess, many of the great Americans had this, Sigel and Earl come to mind obviously
i dont mind it, I've long tired of the euro cookie cutter types
i suspected that history, having seen baoanans road to the QF. the first breaks in the QF were borderline, but i think fedor's reaction was over the top. the ref is there for a reason.
anyway. baoanan made a great debut on the main stage. fedor made a great comeback and some incredible shots.
chua's match against niels was brilliant, likely the best played QF. i didn't watch ko's match in its entirety though. those two are probably favorites.
yapp v filler was a bit of a dud. yapp needs to hit another gear to win this. gorst too. impressive to win from behind but there was a reason he got behind in the first place.
Truthfully, Sky hasn’t been the same player since he found a woman, became a father and got married. Peoples priorities change.
And when Earl did this shit all his ass-kissers just loved it. A lil over the line sure but not enough for full on outrage. Agree 10000% with CanadianGuy, so tired of all the milk drinkin' robots. A lil controversy is good. Its got people talking, pool needs more fire and less milk.
If part-time WNT tour member Niels Feijin can play like he does at age 48, with one eye, a wife, three daughters, and a new business, Sky can play a little better too. He does get money from sponsors, too, since he is a professional pool player.
Sky’s newly acquired business sells pool-related clothing. Surely that’s incentive to play better. At the very least, give it your all when you do play. Sky tried coasting at both the Florida and U.S. opens.
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Got no issue with Fedor. He’s not perfect, so what? It’s not like he acts like that often. He doesn’t. He’s almost always respectful.
The sport could use a little more villainy other than Jayson Shaw.
In any case, I’ll always root for him. Too damn good, too damn relentless, becoming too much like a true American for me not to. Crowd was chanting USA after he won and Gorst showed his appreciation back. Love it.
Not rooting for or against him today, though. Chua is probably my favorite player over Gorst by a hair because of his attacking style. Just want to see a great match. My gut say Gorst avenges his loss to Chua at the Knight Shot Open.
The sport could use a little more villainy other than Jayson Shaw.
In any case, I’ll always root for him. Too damn good, too damn relentless, becoming too much like a true American for me not to. Crowd was chanting USA after he won and Gorst showed his appreciation back. Love it.
Not rooting for or against him today, though. Chua is probably my favorite player over Gorst by a hair because of his attacking style. Just want to see a great match. My gut say Gorst avenges his loss to Chua at the Knight Shot Open.
We are definitely in for a treat today. These last 4 have been showing a lot of ability and heart! I can’t wait! I think Yapp has all the momentum, but it’s hard to bet against Chua, Ko, or Fedor. Man. I like Yapp if only to add him to the list of players with an undeniable year of success!
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A little chink in the armor….get to be a winner and victimized at the same time?
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I've never quite understood the bitching about soft breaks, but if they're such a problem why not just set a minimum cue ball speed and cut out all the subjectivity?
Personally I like seeing a variety of breaking speeds and techniques, from vintage Earl to vintage Corey Deuel. If it works, it works, and if it doesn't work, the player will adjust.
Personally I like seeing a variety of breaking speeds and techniques, from vintage Earl to vintage Corey Deuel. If it works, it works, and if it doesn't work, the player will adjust.
Matchroom has a specific 'forceful break rule' to stop pitty-patty CD style breaks. What constitutes a forceful break is at a ref's discretion. A radar-gun would be cool. Soft breaks suck. Other than Corey himself you might be the first person i've heard say they liked soft breaking. Its not how the game was meant to be played.
Den of thieves.... at times.
Anyone know the match start times today?
i think in 2 hrs
Noon Eastern time?
Times listed are East coast time zone.
