Clear to whom? Frinstense, stick passes right through the contact zone - shadow and all - without moving the 9. Also public web is not reliable forensics. Exabit interference and all...
Yapp winning, with a foul! Just like Maradona making a goal with his hands :D
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One thing, Newton won't allow is a 90 degree graze will impart no energy but contact would have to be visible to assess a foul.
When he hit the cueball the stick deflected to his left and moved the ball. It's clear as day
I'm talking view left. You're just flailing.
On the WNTTV website it still looks like a foul with better video bitrate available, not just on YouTube with lower bitrate. It would have been hard for a referee to notice it, or a player to perhaps noticed it happened. The 9 ball did not move long enough for a player shooting looking at the pocket to pick up on their own that the 9 ball moved. The impact occurred at the same time the cue hit the object ball making it tough for a player to call a foul on themselves. Yapp probably thought it was a good hit at the time since he knew the ref was watching and made no call.
Funny. I'm 51 / 49 no foul so what Yapp thought at the time isn't even a point of concern. There are many anomalies in the slomo "proof" clip. At presented speed, the stroke looks faster than it should be and the ball does jog as if fouled.
At frame x frame, there is no movement at the possible contact and the motion of the ball seems controlled by the shadow of the stick only. Enough doubt for me.
We've all seen hanging balls Yoda' d in after catching their breath and rules have been created to deal with "spontaneous motion". Right now the best possibility for that is the strike on the cue ball itself. But that's just guessing at it.
Delusion is a thing, you're clearly living in city center. Enjoy the neighborhood
If the hand had been near the cueball, yes. In this case, no
Nah, you feel everything the cue does. There's no way he didn't "feel it" but without seeing the 9 ball move, he probably didn't recognize it as a foul. I can assure you he "felt" it, I'm not saying he did something nefarious, I am saying he felt it, but with the small distance the ball "tipped" he may not have recognized it, what i can assure you is that he felt it. Hope somebody asks him, if he's as honest as we all believe him to be, he will admit he felt it.
When this happens, you all owe us apologies
Not even close. Try again
Don't even know what you mean there^^ Run out of angles? Speeder is the same way. Irrefutably correct irrelevence or nuthin.
Anything else you wish to discuss before I start comparing you to Donny?
Pro tennis players often challenge line calls near the end of the match or on match point--because they have nothing to lose. If WNT rules allow players to challenge a shot and the refs are allowed to look at replays, then a good end of match strategy would be to challenge any shot where an opponent's cue stick or hand (or other body part) comes close to a ball.
Flakeandrun
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I'd impose a time limit like they do in cricket. 15 seconds to challenge a call and use the DRS. Otherwise sit down and shut up. They get a set amount of referrals, if the challenge is inconclusive, they lose the referral. If the challenge is upheld, they maintain the ability to refer.
Works very well in cricket.
Jayson Shaw had his original straight pool high run got reduced from 714 to 669 when the BCA claimed a ball moved early in the run which I believe Shaw did not think occurred, so it can happen where a player does not recognize that it happened.
I don't believe he didn't know it happened. And like Yapp, I want to believe they didn't "see" it.
Too much vibration in the cue to deny it happened. I promise you he felt it, I'm a Shaw fan and I still believe he felt it.
Donny? Compare away, if you wanna be proven wrong, go ahead
I saw the same video on reddit but slowed down and zoom in. Even the eight wobbles appears to wobbles slighty... So I am very questionning If he didn't just shake the table on this shot, of it's the camera that wobbles.
If it was a foul, I am really OK that the ref didn't saw and call it. But the ref shouldn't have miss this one [edit: on smartphone I was sure the eight was moved by his arm. I am not sure on computer]
If it was a foul, I am really OK that the ref didn't saw and call it. But the ref shouldn't have miss this one [edit: on smartphone I was sure the eight was moved by his arm. I am not sure on computer]
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