Watch his wrist.
KO brothers tip review.
- Thread starter Gravey39
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He's creating the power somehow...elbow stays still too...
Jayson Shaw does it that way too...creates gargantuan draw power...He draws the ball like Louie often did. It's all in the wrist at point of contact on the CB. You can get enormous amounts of draw if you snap the wrist. Try it. Takes time to learn how to control, but those long draw shots you over stroke and jaw the OB in the pocket?? They don't happen no mo.
All it takes is a quick flick and you'll get 2-3 feet easy.
That's just for starters for you under 500s.
To play devil's advocate I can think of a few... I draw well. Nuff said.
I don't use draw that often unless I blow shape or there's no other way to get where I need to be. Idk what makes draw so much harder than follow in everyone's minds, but it's a fact that more strange things can occur with a draw shot than using high or follow.
That being said, I also avoid banks and combos whenever possible as they add complexity to the shot and I'm all about simple. Park my ass mid table and go. Why take chances when not necessary??
If more players went home hungry after a loss, they'd understand this.
Help me out Hu.
You gotta tt an older player who knows about this stuff bcuz you won't get taught this by any modern coach or instructor that I know of.
Even tho it's effective as hell, you're game has to be at a certain level to even understand what's happening with the stroke at that point. All considered poor form today??
If the player slows down his stroke so there is no follow through then the tip can contact the cueball with no follow through, that is exactly how I hit the cueball when I was first learning to play, I didn't consciously slow down my stroke but I stopped my stroke at the cueball, thankfully some knowledgeable players taught me what a proper stroke looked like, I couldn't understand why I could not spin the cueball when hitting it with sidespin or draw/follow, in the immortal words of Yosemite Sam.....that'll learn ya
I think its quite simple: You need to use draw when the situation calls for.If you cant draw the ball you will not be a good player.And sometimes you get to the table and ''have'' to execute a big draw shot.To play devil's advocate I can think of a few... I draw well. Nuff said.
I don't use draw that often unless I blow shape or there's no other way to get where I need to be. Idk what makes draw so much harder than follow in everyone's minds, but it's a fact that more strange things can occur with a draw shot than using high or follow.
That being said, I also avoid banks and combos whenever possible as they add complexity to the shot and I'm all about simple. Park my ass mid table and go. Why take chances when not necessary??
If more players went home hungry after a loss, they'd understand this.
Help me out Hu.
For example here
Snap of his wrist and his speed of stroke, I was at SBE one year and they had a radar gun to test break speed, my friend hit 26mph, I tried several times and my best was 14mph, some people have more natural speed of stroke, just like some people can punch faster than others, I believe the formula is speed x mass = force, so I went from using an 18.5 oz cue to using a 22.5 oz cue, did it help? Like night and day, there was nothing I could do about my speed of stroke but adding the weight helped me move the cueball around the table, not just draw but follow as well, I use that little snap of the wrist on those shots too, that's what they mean by timing, you have to time the snap of the wrist a split second before contact with the cueball, that little snap speeds up your speed of stroke, when done properly the cueball seems to stop for half a second and then rocket backwards, that has been my experience, your experience may differ.....
Flakeandrun
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How would it move at all... even touching it is imparting a follow through. Regardless of length.If the player slows down his stroke so there is no follow through then the tip can contact the cueball with no follow through, that is exactly how I hit the cueball when I was first learning to play, I didn't consciously slow down my stroke but I stopped my stroke at the cueball, thankfully some knowledgeable players taught me what a proper stroke looked like, I couldn't understand why I could not spin the cueball when hitting it with sidespin or draw/follow, in the immortal words of Yosemite Sam.....that'll learn ya
It doesn’t always have to be a big draw shot, what if you need to draw or follow 3" to get shape on the game winning ball and you can't be off by 1/4"? You should not be using draw or follow unless you need to for shape, just because you hit low on the cueball does not make that a draw stroke, sometimes I do that just to slow the cueball down to get shape, in golf you use many different clubs to move the ball around, in pool you have one stick, for the most part, and you use many different strokes to move the ball around .
Check out some Dr Dave billiards video, he has covered this extensively
I've seen my friend do it many times, his speed of stroke is pro level and he can draw and follow like the pro's
Please show where follow through is considered 6-9 inches after the cueball, where did you get that figure from?
Are you having trouble understanding logic?
I know Mark Wilson well, never heard him say that or write that, he studied under Jerry.