Cynergy shaft issues

AI is dumber than the average human. The average human seems to believe AI. Thus the average human is dumber than AI.

I fully believe all three of those statements are true even though they directly contradict each other.

AI won't take over the world as seen in the dystopian movies like Terminator. AI will take over the world by telling future humans that they need to drink eight cups of motor oil per day...and the future humans will do it.
 
It's all in your head...
Ken Doherty won a world snooker championship with a bent cue, in fact he played all his career with that bent cue.
If it doesn't bother you then it doesn't matter but if it does than replace it as your mind won't rest until you do and it'll hurt your game
 
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Hopefully I made it clear my remarks reflected my opinion (reply #24). Isn’t that what IMO stands for?
Then I posted my standards might be unrealistic (reply #33). I thought referring to this as my standards
made this clear as well. But at least I did acknowledge that the shaft performance is unaffected. Just
keep in mind if you disagree with my comments, that’s also just your opinion so we agree to disagree.
Your standards aren't just unrealistic they are impossible. Every manufactured product has tolerances and the op's are well within what a mass produced object will have. Now, knowing you're the same guy that sweats micro-micro-micro weight differences in a shaft this doesn't surprise me. I really feel sorry for any contractors you had do work for you.
 
Your standards aren't just unrealistic they are impossible. Every manufactured product has tolerances and the op's are well within what a mass produced object will have. Now, knowing you're the same guy that sweats micro-micro-micro weight differences in a shaft this doesn't surprise me. I really feel sorry for any contractors you had do work for you.
Well, my cue makers never griped and became really close pals and maybe I’m closer to being right whereas you’re closer to being wrong. The representations extended by some CF builders, which again I know little about the actual manufacture process unlike wood shafts, that another Azer posted suggests something very differently than your beliefs. If the manufacturer claims tolerances of X but the CF shaft you get exceeds what the manufacturer represents, that would seem to fall under the guise of a warranty issue.

When the manufacturer says the CF shafts are built not to vary in taper but the shaft does, the manufacturer has an obligation to repair or replace the shaft to the tolerances they stated in writing. If that isn’t a defect under the manufacturer warranty, then what is it other than an oops? All you are doing is making the manufacturer back up what they promised and failed to deliver. Let’s see how others feel because all the shaft CF shaft owner would be doing is insisting the shaft builder fulfill what they stated their product would be dimensionally. I think I’m right but you don’t.

Just like Kielwood, maybe you have a bit more to learn and maybe shouldn’t be so quick to judge because the CF shaft being discussed was not built to the manufacturers written specifications how their shafts are built within strict tolerances that the manufacturer failed to do with the shaft in question. That falls within warranty or at least IMO.
 
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Your standards aren't just unrealistic they are impossible. Every manufactured product has tolerances and the op's are well within what a mass produced object will have. Now, knowing you're the same guy that sweats micro-micro-micro weight differences in a shaft this doesn't surprise me. I really feel sorry for any contractors you had do work for you.

It's impossible to argue with people who are both confident and ignorant.
 
If the manufacturer claims tolerances of X but the CF shaft you get exceeds what the manufacturer represents, that would seem to fall under the guise of a warranty issue.
Where do you see the manufacturer's stated tolerance for their shaft? You nor I know if it's within tolerance as it's not stated unless I missed it somewhere. All I'm saying is that 0.09mm is very small indeed. To the point that it's probably well within the acceptable tolerance of CF. No material is perfect. No mass produced product is perfect. No blank is perfect, be it metal, CF, wood, plastic, glass, etc.

When the manufacturer says the CF shafts are built not to vary in taper but the shaft does, the manufacturer has an obligation to repair or replace the shaft to the tolerances they stated in writing. If that isn’t a defect under the manufacturer warranty, then what is it other than an oops? All you are doing is making the manufacturer back up what they promised and failed to deliver. Let’s see how others feel because all the shaft CF shaft owner would be doing is insisting the shaft builder fulfill what they stated their product would be dimensionally. I think I’m right but you don’t.
They say the taper doesn't vary, but in reality when dealing with real world tangible objects there is nothing that is perfect. That's why we have tolerances. They tell us if a product is within spec. Nothing is perfect, but tolerance tells us if it's "close enough" to perfect. They don't state a tolerance, so you nor I can say it's bad or good. Them saying the taper doesn't vary is marketing. If you take a microscope and zoom in 1000x CF will probably look like sandpaper. All those little peaks and valleys are variations in taper. This sounds silly but I'm just taking it to it's logical conclusion. Unless magic is real and they conjured the shaft into being with a 1000 year old wizard and the sacrifice of 10 virgins, no shaft is perfect. Real tangible objects are not perfect.
Just like Kielwood, maybe you have a bit more to learn and maybe shouldn’t be so quick to judge because the CF shaft being discussed was not built to the manufacturers written specifications how their shafts are built within strict tolerances that the manufacturer failed to do with the shaft in question. That falls within warranty or at least IMO.
As far as I am aware, the manufacturer did not state their specifications and tolerances, so there's no way you or I could prove if it's good or bad. 0.09mm is minuscule and is most likely within spec.

Could it be made with more precision? Sure. But you're not going to find NASA level precision on a consumer product churned out by the thousands. It's unrealistic. Say for giggles that Predator makes 100 shafts in a day. If they were held to a silly tolerance like +-0.001mm, they could make 5 a day. It could be done, but each shaft may cost $4000. No one would buy them and they would soon go out of business. Would 20 people in the world buy them over a year period? Maybe, but they will make nowhere near as much money as if they produced 100 shafts every day and sold them for $400.

Precision costs big money, both to manufacture and inspect. The consumer pays for that, and they are only willing to pay so much for a given product. This is how everything is manufactured.
 
I recently bought a new Cuetec Cynergy 12.5 shaft. I have noticed a variance in shaft diameter at the tip end. It is supposed to have a 15.5 inch pro-taper. It starts out as 12.5mm at the tip. As I move down the shaft towards the joint the diameter dips down to 12.41 then up again to 12.5. I was wondering if anyone else had this issue. It feels weird. I am tempted to sand it all to match. I have may have waited too long to report it as a warranty issue.
I would worry more about my fundamentals, proper stroke, vision center, full shot routine than runout that is the width of a human hair......
 
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