The Hustler Bank Shot Recreated with a twist

I’d be more interested in the bank/combo he made early in the first match. Strictly a showy trick shot no straight pool player would ever consider trying in a real game. I have to wonder how many takes it took, as it was one of the few that wasn’t actually made by Mosconi. I’ll bet they had to mark the cushion so he knew where to aim.
 
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I’d be more interested in the bank/combo he made early in the first match. Strictly a showy trick shot no straight pool player would ever consider trying in a real game. I have to wonder how many takes it took, as it was one of the few that wasn’t actually made by Mosconi. I’ll bet they had to mark the cushion so he knew where to aim.
I can definitely do that in the future
 
It'd be a foul in competition, right?
Ignore the rail for a second and imagine you hit with follow when two balls are frozen; most games require a 45° downward cueing angle to avoid double-kiss.
 
It'd be a foul in competition, right?
Ignore the rail for a second and imagine you hit with follow when two balls are frozen; most games require a 45° downward cueing angle to avoid double-kiss.
Without the cushion it's a simple push shot which is legal. The grey area is it is a double - maybe multiple kiss as well as a cue tip foul. You could petition for an exception since the shot would be useful at any angle.
 
It'd be a foul in competition, right?
Ignore the rail for a second and imagine you hit with follow when two balls are frozen; most games require a 45° downward cueing angle to avoid double-kiss.
I don't feel it would be a foul. With the upstroke, you don't double hit the cue ball. The shaft gets out of the way. I did have that slow mo close up angle. I think that shows that it isn't a double hit. Or maybe I needed to go slower.
 
I don't feel it would be a foul. With the upstroke, you don't double hit the cue ball. The shaft gets out of the way. I did have that slow mo close up angle. I think that shows that it isn't a double hit. Or maybe I needed to go slower.
I think right at the strike when the tip, balls, and rail are contiguous, there might be an oscillation or three. (?)
 
It'd be a foul in competition, right?
Ignore the rail for a second and imagine you hit with follow when two balls are frozen; most games require a 45° downward cueing angle to avoid double-kiss.
Without the cushion it's a simple push shot which is legal. The grey area is it is a double - maybe multiple kiss as well as a cue tip foul. You could petition for an exception since the shot would be useful at any angle.
Eddie and Chuck are long gone by the time you two work that out. :rolleyes:
 
most games require a 45° downward cueing angle to avoid double-kiss.
The WPA Rules of Play, which apply to ALL games, do not require any 45 degree nonsense when the cue ball is frozen to the object ball:

3.7 DOUBLE HIT / FROZEN BALLS
...if the cue-ball is touching an object-ball at the start of the shot, it is legal to
shoot towards or partly into that ball (provided it is a legal target within the rules of the
game) and if the object-ball is moved by such a shot, it is considered to have been
contacted by the cue-ball.

For instance, in 9-ball when the cue ball is frozen to the lowest numbered ball on the table, it is legal to stroke the cue ball however you wish. You can stroke with a level cue full into the object ball, or you can stroke the cue ball into the object ball at a half ball hit in an attempt to throw/push the object ball into a pocket, or anything else and by rule it is not considered a foul. Of course, if you stroke towards a cushion, and the cue ball or object ball comes off the cushion and hits your stick, that is a foul; or if you stroke towards some nearby balls and your cue hits those balls, then it is a foul.

Dumb league rules are NOT the rules of pool:

 
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Agreed. BUT, when not frozen, jack-up rule sure would eliminate a lot of controversy/contention amongst the bangers. Actual cue angle not really as important as demonstrating you are aware of a delicate issue. Experienced/pro players should be educated enough to deal with the classic rules though.
 
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