Fedor New Cue?

Indians didn’t use shitty arrows.. stupid saying
But they probably did. The ones with shitty arrows just didn’t survive too long.

High profile sponsored player is expected to switch to a newer model constantly. Essential part of marketing and creating a buzz over a new release. He’s/she’s paid to do that.
 
But he didn't change sponsor, just a cue.
The interesting part is both his last cue and this one are not of the shelf Viking cues while he still wear the Viking logo on his shirt and Viking are not on his sponsors list on his web site, just Triple 60 (which is still Viking), maybe they make customs for him, maybe they are Triple 60 prototype cues.
Some find it interesting without the urge to buy anything or thinking that getting it will make them a better player, just a point of view of a gear head.
I didn’t say he switched sponsors, I said they switch cues based on sponsors money. Sponsors always want them to switch and use the newest and latest offerings to sell them. Like SVB going to Cue Tech’s CF stuff when they came out with it. It creates issues at times as well. Kaci liked Predators “2” version shafts and squawked when they wanted him to switch to newer versions as he didn’t play as well with them. It’s always about pushing the latest thing.
 
I didn’t say he switched sponsors, I said they switch cues based on sponsors money. Sponsors always want them to switch and use the newest and latest offerings to sell them. Like SVB going to Cue Tech’s CF stuff when they came out with it. It creates issues at times as well. Kaci liked Predators “2” version shafts and squawked when they wanted him to switch to newer versions as he didn’t play as well with them. It’s always about pushing the latest thing.
SVB's case is a little different as he was closely involved in designing the Cynergy. Wasn't any 'strongarming' Shane into carbon-fiber. Filler went back to wood for a while until Pred made a shaft he liked. The players still have the final say in what they use.
 
Indians didn’t use shitty arrows.. stupid saying
I wish I could like this more than once. I MOST DEFINITELY shoot MUCH BETTER with MY CUE, period. I will do perfectly fine shooting without MY CUE, but I am 1000% much more comfortable shooting with MINE. Brian
 
It’s the Indian not the arrow.

You can’t play anywhere near Fedor no matter what kind of cue you use.

Instead of thinking about cues, you should spend your money on lessons.

Good players can win with crooked cues off the wall.

Ok now that we’ve got all that out of the way, it looks like Fedor was playing with a different cue at the Derby Bigfoot matches.

Got any info?
You forgot. "You don't need that cue when a Schmelke will work just fine."
 
Only idiots take that saying literally/verbatim. It just summarizes the FACT that talent/skill/desire WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY override equipment. Years ago a friend of mine was headed to a pretty big regional event and his cue(runde Schon. he did finally get it back btw) got stolen the night before he left. With a BORROWED sneaky he'd never hit a ball with he went and came in second. Folks having a nice wand is great but its importance is often grossly overrated. NO ONE on here will ever play even remotely like Fedor regardless of what cue/shaft/tip/chalk/glove you use.
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if you have seen top players beat really good players playing with a broom stick handle, you might reconsider that.

and ive seen players grab a stick at random off the wall and run a hundred balls. and also play runout 9 ball all day long.

Not calling you a liar, but I woukd gave to see that for myself. At least the pro with a broom handle beating good players.
 
But they probably did. The ones with shitty arrows just didn’t survive too long.

High profile sponsored player is expected to switch to a newer model constantly. Essential part of marketing and creating a buzz over a new release. He’s/she’s paid to do that.
Brings to mind the old joke. What do you call an Indian hunter with bad aim,..................Vegetarian.
 
yet for 20yrs the same lame topic keeps getting re-hashed. how's this: 'its the player and not the cue'??? feel better now? cue/shaft co's make their living off people thinking they can buy a game, same as golf equip makers. As soon as Scheffler switched to that TM mallet putter the whole world had to have one and they still can't break 100(or get to 500FR in pool).
 
a story from lou. he is not a top player and got a spot but still said he was running like 5 balls. now imagine someone skilled at playing with one for a time. and lou was playing with the whole broom and not just a handle.


The following is a true story.

(insert flashback music)

It was a Friday night back in the early 70's at Town & Country Billiards, in Daly City, California. As was my wont at that period of my callow youth, there I was hitting balls instead of being out on a date, or working on my term paper which was due the following week. But, it was Friday night, the week of school and work was over, I was 19 years old playing pool and life was good.

About 10 o'clock, Vince -- a well-known (and well-heeled) mark walks in the front door of the establishment. Vince was always good for some $5 or $10 9ball, a game I actually played and was semi-proficient at way back then. As soon as I saw him come through the door I knew I'd have only a very limited window of opportunity to put him under contract before other, perhaps more enticing offers, were made by all the usual suspects. And so, with full knowledge I'd only have one shot at my customer, I opened with what I thought would be a sure fire automatic deal-closer: "Hey Vince, come on. Let's play some 9ball. You got the eight." Vince didn't miss a beat and shot back, "I ain't playing you with no 8. I want the 6, 7, 8 from someone who shoots as straight as you." Instantly I knew I had underestimated my man and grossly misplayed my opportunity. I weakly rejoined, "Hell! The 6, 7, 8?! I'd play someone with the broomstick with that kind of spot." And then, fast as lighting, Vince barked back, "OK. You got the 6,7,8, for $20 a game with the broomstick."

Well, this was a totally unexpected turn of events. The hunter had somehow become the huntee and I was at a sudden loss as to what the appropriate move was. But then Jerry and Devlin came to my rescue.

Jerry was my wingman on many an adventure. Devlin, who looked just like Cole Dickson and was a straight shootin sum beeatch about our age and who also hung around said, "Play him -- you can win." I was totally not buying it. "What do you mean I can win? Playing with a broomstick ?!" Jerry says, "You can do it. Devlin did it against Dennis a few years ago. It's not that tough." Still, I had more than a few doubts. But somehow, their complete confidence in our side of the proposition swayed me and I said, "OK. Get the broomstick." I put the eight-point Gina back in its case for the night.

"Hey Stan. We need to borrow your broomstick."

Now for Stan Cleaner, owner and counter man, this request, came as no surprise or shock. He'd seen it all over the years watching as his teenaged charges had grown older, yet no wiser. This was just one more in a long string of inane, nonsensical, nutty things he'd heard from us and so, without much more than a shake of his head, a barely audible sigh, and a wave of his hand he continued reading his paper and said, "It's in the closet."

Stan's broom was standard issue (Made by the Blind). Maybe an 1 1/2" diameter blue wood handle, and the usual whisks in a tight natural colored fan pattern. The shape of the end of the handle was actually a pretty good approximation of a regular cue tip, except bigger. A lot bigger. "OK, look. You gotta keep it chalked, just like a regular pool cue. Just keep it chalked," Devlin instructed, as he sanded the blue enamel off the "tip." I looked at him dubiously.

Vince and I agreed to $20 a game (insert requisite: "that was pretty good action, back then.") Jerry, Devlin, and I quickly formed a consortium pooling our monies for a grand total of $120. Six barrels. I'd have to come out of the starting blocks fast. The only thing that made this anything less than total lunacy was that Vince was a known go-off and if somehow I could prevail, we'd all be on our way on a Vince-sponsored excursion to Lake Tahoe, with its siren call of casinos, blackjack tables, and "free" beer, shortly after the conclusion of the match.

We started and right off I could tell: Jerry and Devlin were right! It wasn't impossible. The hardest part was getting a decent grip on the whisks and of course, you had to play with an open hand bridge. But Vince wasn't that good to begin with and he had a little pooch in him and I'm sure the potential stories that would circulate through the pool room -- about him losing to Lou playing with a broomstick -- floated through his brain.

Vince jars an eight ball. Lou bumps the cue ball towards the eight and wins. Maybe this was not so tough after all...

After about two hours a serious problem began to emerge. It wasn't what was going on on the pool table. I was now getting the hang of it and was running three, and then four, and the occasional five balls at a time. I was even able to put a little stop shot action on the ball. And, we were now playing for $40 a game. Lou, Jerry, Devlin, Inc. was up almost $400. The problem was: gripping the broomstick by its whisks, the whisks having started to work their way up under the finger nails of my grip hand. My fingers had begun to bleed and hurt like hell. Jerry went running behind the counter to get the pool hall "Emergency Kit" which consisted entirely of a couple of old Band-Aids and an equally aging bottle of aspirin. We taped up all the fingers on my grip hand as best we could and I was good to go.

Well, to cut to the chase, we played into the night and I won just over $800 from Vince (requisite: not a bad score in those days). So all I know is that you can play with a broom stick. But my recommendation is to wear a glove on your grip hand if you're going to do it.

Lou Figueroa
 
a story from lou. he is not a top player and got a spot but still said he was running like 5 balls. now imagine someone skilled at playing with one for a time.


The following is a true story.

(insert flashback music)

It was a Friday night back in the early 70's at Town & Country Billiards, in Daly City, California. As was my wont at that period of my callow youth, there I was hitting balls instead of being out on a date, or working on my term paper which was due the following week. But, it was Friday night, the week of school and work was over, I was 19 years old playing pool and life was good.

About 10 o'clock, Vince -- a well-known (and well-heeled) mark walks in the front door of the establishment. Vince was always good for some $5 or $10 9ball, a game I actually played and was semi-proficient at way back then. As soon as I saw him come through the door I knew I'd have only a very limited window of opportunity to put him under contract before other, perhaps more enticing offers, were made by all the usual suspects. And so, with full knowledge I'd only have one shot at my customer, I opened with what I thought would be a sure fire automatic deal-closer: "Hey Vince, come on. Let's play some 9ball. You got the eight." Vince didn't miss a beat and shot back, "I ain't playing you with no 8. I want the 6, 7, 8 from someone who shoots as straight as you." Instantly I knew I had underestimated my man and grossly misplayed my opportunity. I weakly rejoined, "Hell! The 6, 7, 8?! I'd play someone with the broomstick with that kind of spot." And then, fast as lighting, Vince barked back, "OK. You got the 6,7,8, for $20 a game with the broomstick."

Well, this was a totally unexpected turn of events. The hunter had somehow become the huntee and I was at a sudden loss as to what the appropriate move was. But then Jerry and Devlin came to my rescue.

Jerry was my wingman on many an adventure. Devlin, who looked just like Cole Dickson and was a straight shootin sum beeatch about our age and who also hung around said, "Play him -- you can win." I was totally not buying it. "What do you mean I can win? Playing with a broomstick ?!" Jerry says, "You can do it. Devlin did it against Dennis a few years ago. It's not that tough." Still, I had more than a few doubts. But somehow, their complete confidence in our side of the proposition swayed me and I said, "OK. Get the broomstick." I put the eight-point Gina back in its case for the night.

"Hey Stan. We need to borrow your broomstick."

Now for Stan Cleaner, owner and counter man, this request, came as no surprise or shock. He'd seen it all over the years watching as his teenaged charges had grown older, yet no wiser. This was just one more in a long string of inane, nonsensical, nutty things he'd heard from us and so, without much more than a shake of his head, a barely audible sigh, and a wave of his hand he continued reading his paper and said, "It's in the closet."

Stan's broom was standard issue (Made by the Blind). Maybe an 1 1/2" diameter blue wood handle, and the usual whisks in a tight natural colored fan pattern. The shape of the end of the handle was actually a pretty good approximation of a regular cue tip, except bigger. A lot bigger. "OK, look. You gotta keep it chalked, just like a regular pool cue. Just keep it chalked," Devlin instructed, as he sanded the blue enamel off the "tip." I looked at him dubiously.

Vince and I agreed to $20 a game (insert requisite: "that was pretty good action, back then.") Jerry, Devlin, and I quickly formed a consortium pooling our monies for a grand total of $120. Six barrels. I'd have to come out of the starting blocks fast. The only thing that made this anything less than total lunacy was that Vince was a known go-off and if somehow I could prevail, we'd all be on our way on a Vince-sponsored excursion to Lake Tahoe, with its siren call of casinos, blackjack tables, and "free" beer, shortly after the conclusion of the match.

We started and right off I could tell: Jerry and Devlin were right! It wasn't impossible. The hardest part was getting a decent grip on the whisks and of course, you had to play with an open hand bridge. But Vince wasn't that good to begin with and he had a little pooch in him and I'm sure the potential stories that would circulate through the pool room -- about him losing to Lou playing with a broomstick -- floated through his brain.

Vince jars an eight ball. Lou bumps the cue ball towards the eight and wins. Maybe this was not so tough after all...

After about two hours a serious problem began to emerge. It wasn't what was going on on the pool table. I was now getting the hang of it and was running three, and then four, and the occasional five balls at a time. I was even able to put a little stop shot action on the ball. And, we were now playing for $40 a game. Lou, Jerry, Devlin, Inc. was up almost $400. The problem was: gripping the broomstick by its whisks, the whisks having started to work their way up under the finger nails of my grip hand. My fingers had begun to bleed and hurt like hell. Jerry went running behind the counter to get the pool hall "Emergency Kit" which consisted entirely of a couple of old Band-Aids and an equally aging bottle of aspirin. We taped up all the fingers on my grip hand as best we could and I was good to go.

Well, to cut to the chase, we played into the night and I won just over $800 from Vince (requisite: not a bad score in those days). So all I know is that you can play with a broom stick. But my recommendation is to wear a glove on your grip hand if you're going to do it.

Lou Figueroa
Great tale!! Tulsa legend Fat Randy used to play suckers with a tipless cue, just the ferrule. I watched him bust more than a couple who tried that game. He just shot center ball and broke their larcenous(in their dreams) asses. Also seen the broom move too, he could draw his ball a lil with one. He was REALLY stealin in this deal.
 
yet for 20yrs the same lame topic keeps getting re-hashed. how's this: 'its the player and not the cue'??? feel better now? cue/shaft co's make their living off people thinking they can buy a game, same as golf equip makers. As soon as Scheffler switched to that TM mallet putter the whole world had to have one and they still can't break 100(or get to 500FR in pool).
JUST LET THEM
 
Only idiots take that saying literally/verbatim. It just summarizes the FACT that talent/skill/desire WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY override equipment. Years ago a friend of mine was headed to a pretty big regional event and his cue(runde Schon. he did finally get it back btw) got stolen the night before he left. With a BORROWED sneaky he'd never hit a ball with he went and came in second. Folks having a nice wand is great but its importance is often grossly overrated. NO ONE on here will ever play even remotely like Fedor regardless of what cue/shaft/tip/chalk/glove you use.
Dream killer!
 
DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO POST. Seriously pard if you don't like my shit put me on Ignore. I'll take it as compliment believe me.
It's cool. I'll keep posting whatever I like as well. You keep fighting the good fight and pissing in the corn flakes of anybody with a harmless question about pool cues, and I'll keep telling you I think that's a stupid thing to do and that you're a broken record. I'll extend the same invitation to put me on Ignore.
 
Not to mention comparing what an elite player can do with a house cue to what us a normal human being can do with it is silly 🤣 I’ve said this before. pro golfers play with forged irons but you double digit handicap ass better get some over sized cavity backs like the rest of us haha
I get what you are trying to say, but don't confuse ease or difficulty of play with two different manufacturing processes.
 
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