Why is Gorst not flying the American flag next to his name in the Predator tournament? He has in the past. Is he naturalized or not?
Gorst/American Citizenship?
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He is not naturalized yet. Only the WNT is putting the American Flag next to his name (and other associations that might not have a clue how immigration works). I love that he is embracing America and working towards citizenship, like Thorsten and Allison have, but he’s years away from citizenship.
My mother’s parents immigrated to the United States (Galveston) from Russia in 1912. Her father became a citizen in 1926. Her mother in 1944. Im not sure how long the process takes today.
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Fargorate has him as an American as well, despite his lack of citizenship. I guess they follow WNT?
But when he is, he'll know our constitution better than many who were born here. He probably already appreciates our liberties more than the radical "demonstrators".
Idk about that, I know a bunch of citizens that can barely tell me what our 1st amendment is. Some people claim loyalty to USA and don't even know our basic human rights lol. I'm sure he's studying though!
Matchroom can do whatever they want and they have him representing USA purely for entertainment purposes. They could and probably would have him playing for Bolivia if it made financial sense. The WPA actually tries to play by IOC/Olympics rules and cares about citizenship, which is why he has the Russian flag next to his name.
he has the independent athlete flag next to his name. same with wiktor, but for different reasons.
I have often wondered why this is important or more succinctly why it is done. Frankly who gives a tinkers damn about country affiliation? It seems very important to WNT for whatever reason. They’re pool players, irrelevant of origin, and origin really has no bearing on anything.
The WNT do it because it is a Matchroom entitiy. Matchroom do it in order to fill a somewhat competitive American team for Mosconi Cup. They changes the wording of their Mosconi Cup bylaws to allow permanent residents.
Maybe Fargo follow the person’s address. @mikepage ?
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Obtaining U.S. citizenship via naturalization typically takes
1.5 to 2 years total, which includes an application processing time of roughly 12–18 months after submitting Form N-400. Applicants must first be lawful permanent residents (Green Card holders) for at least 5 years (or 3 years if married to a U.S. citizen).
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Key Takeaways
- Total Timeframe: Generally 1.5 to 2 years (including the 3-5 year waiting period).
- Application Processing: Average USCIS processing (Form N-400) is about 5.5 to 12+ months.
- Key Steps: Fingerprinting (1–2 months), Interview/Test (6–12 months), and Oath Ceremony (1–2 months).
- Eligibility Time: 5 years of permanent residence (or 3 years if married to a U.S. citizen).
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- Field Office: Processing times vary by location, ranging from 4-5 months to over 2 years in some areas.
- Complexity: Complicated cases (criminal history, foreign travel) can delay the process.
- Accuracy: Errors in the application can lead to significant delays.
- File up to 90 days before reaching the 3 or 5-year eligibility mark.
- Ensure all information is accurate and respond promptly to requests.
- File online for potentially faster processing.
I am a naturalized US citizen myself, and I am intimately knowledgeable about the current process as I’m currently in the process as a sponsor for one of my direct reports.
What you COPIED AND PASTED is all nice and good, but it’s not a 1 1/2 to 2 years process, in case that’s the takeaway people get without reading the whole thing through . In the current process it’s gonna be a year and a half - 2 years just for the green card for my direct report. And in my case back in the 70s, it took around 7 years. One needs to be a permanent resident for at least 5 years, per the process.
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He is years away. He received his Green Card reportedly in 2023. He’ll be eligible for citizenship in 2028 unless he marries a US Citizen.
Accept for a few rare situations, it has always taken a minimum of approximately seven years. Too many people here are lazy about the facts, can’t be bothered with the actual truth, and can’t remember their education. We all had this in junior high school. As far as the “appreciate the liberties “ and “ half the lowlifes” comments, take it to NPR. This is Ames mister.
I’d love this guy as my neighbor.
vintagecollectibles831
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Yeah, I think it is such BS that American players have been pushed to the sidelines, while Fedor gets a spot every year, on the Mosconi Cup team. It is all about having the best chance of winning, instead of putting players on the team who were born and raised right here in the US.