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Filler is the best rotation player of all time.
maybe he is but today, fedor played poorly
and this is a skittles table
with the peculiar set 1- set 2- shootout-
so i’m not giving him the crown just yet
He can only do the best he can with the circumstances presented to him. At the end of the day, he won 11 racks to 4 against the #2 ranked player in the world.
It is still difficult for me to imagine anyone wanting a piece of Joshua in 9- or 10-ball in a long match. At least if the backers like their money.
i agree.
filler's a freak of nature. he's a lot like earl in some ways (eerily accurate, instinctual, spears the cue ball) but with a heap of tactical skills, banking and two way strategic moves. his winning ball in the 2021 american 14.1 championship semifinal against fortunski is a prime example:
If I needed a champion to play one game, or a race to 9, for my life I would choose Filler.
Yet the win over Fedor doesn't tell me anything new. Gorst didn't lose a single set in the tournament until the final, when he made a series of uncharacteristic errors. Badly overran his position a handful of times.
Filler made enough mistakes to lose the final. Gorst made more.
Yet the win over Fedor doesn't tell me anything new. Gorst didn't lose a single set in the tournament until the final, when he made a series of uncharacteristic errors. Badly overran his position a handful of times.
Filler made enough mistakes to lose the final. Gorst made more.
Yes, no doubt JF played great in the final BUT i would not put too much stock in the results from this format. I like it for the brevity and excitement but as far as determining the best player not so much. I'd love to see these two play 3/5 or 4/7 races to 15/20. Not a fan of one big set. Filler's precision(shooting and safeties) IS alien-like when he's in hi-gear.
You will not beat Filler in most short set races. Has to be a long race to see if he will break down mentally/stamina.
Do you mean multiple sets of races to 20 to determine a winner like the Predator series? A single race to 20 is like a practice session for Filler. You have to get him grinding for hours to see what he got.
Filler may not be the best of all time (yet), but he has a pretty impressive rotation resume since he won the World championship back in 2018.
2026 Las Vegas Open Ten-ball
2026 Derby City Classic Nine-ball
2025 Jacksonville Ten-ball Open
2025 Euro Tour Estonian Open
2025 European Open Nine-ball Championship
2025 Euro Tour Italian Open
2025 Derby City Classic Nine-ball
2024 China Open 9-ball Championship
2024 Knight Shot Dubai Open Nine-ball
2024 Derby City Classic Nine-ball
2024 Derby City Classic Bigfoot Ten-ball Challenge
2023 Euro Tour Treviso Open
2023 Euro Tour Lasko Open
2023 Qatar Open 9-Ball Championship
2023 Predator Wisconsin Open
2023 China Open 9-Ball Championship
2023 Euro Tour Terme Olimia Open
2023 Euro Tour Austria Open
2022 Euro Tour Lasko Open
2022 World Pool Masters
2022 U.K. Open Nine-ball Championship
2022 World Games Nine-ball Singles
2022 Euro Tour Treviso Open
2022 Derby City Classic Bigfoot Ten-ball Challenge
2021 European Pool Championship Nine-ball
2021 International Bigfoot Ten-ball Challenge
2021 Euro Tour Austria Open
2019 U.S. Open Nine-ball Championship
2018 WPA World Nine-ball Championship
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I didn't pick up the 3/5, 4/7 when I sped read it first. A 4/7 set race to 30 could potentially end up with 413 racks, if my math is correct. Nobody is going to play that.
i think yalin does. chinese manufacturer that makes brunswick.
these tables seem to play tough. looking at them the shelves don't look as deep as diamond, but they seemed to play every bit as tough as the PLP diamonds. would be interesting to hear a player's take on them
The big difference between Filler and Gorst, to me, is the ease with which Filler plays. It's just as skogstokig describes.
Gorst, on the other hand, seems like he has to work harder to get to the same plane, and then stay there.
It's more than that, though. Filler has methodically worked on every part of his game, turning any potential soft spot into a strength.
Three or four years ago, he was a very good banker. Now he's a great one - one of a handful who is the best in the world. Ditto for kicking.
Sjm has asserted Filler was the best player in the world with safeties and tactics. I didn't see it initially. Now I do. He was superb vs Gorst.
The one big advantage Gorst has, of course, is jumping. Filler is a excellent jumper, but he is not in Fedor's league. Nor do I get the sense that Filler wants to be like Gorst in that regard.
How come? Filler is better at avoiding scenarios, when he has control of a table, in which he would need to jump. The match vs. Gorst was a good example. Gorst needed to jump several times to clean up his own mistakes.
I would also guess Filler sees jumping as a high-risk proposition that's often not worth it. Easier to lose control of the cueball. He is definitely a percentage player. I've seen too many players jump when kicking was the better option. It lowers their chances of keeping control of the table.
I think Filler is a better player today because he plays the percentages rather than being flat out aggressive and relying heavily on his excellent shot making as he did couple years ago. Now, he goes for safeties when it's in his favor.