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vincett

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I was looking into opening a pool hall. But it appears that the population that play pools are mainly into 7 foot tables and not 9 foot tables. I wonder why only matchroom and predator host 9 foot table competitions. I also just realized that pro players are mostly 9 foot and league players are all 7 foots. This explains a lot as of why most large events in the USA are on 7 foots.

So then, as a pro player, you can practice at home. But how could you track your Fargo rate accurately if you cant compete against others on proper 9 foot table pool hall ?
 
vincett said:
I was looking into opening a pool hall. But it appears that the population that play pools are mainly into 7 foot tables and not 9 foot tables. I wonder why only matchroom and predator host 9 foot table competitions. I also just realized that pro players are mostly 9 foot and league players are all 7 foots. This explains a lot as of why most large events in the USA are on 7 foots.

So then, as a pro player, you can practice at home. But how could you track your Fargo rate accurately if you cant compete against others on proper 9 foot table pool hall ?
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Fargo doesn't recognize any difference between games played on a 9' table vs those played on a 7'...
 
David in FL said:
Fargo doesn't recognize any difference between games played on a 9' table vs those played on a 7'...
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And that is where it is so wrong, a dominant 9 foot players are more likely to also dominant on a 7 footer.
Willymakaball said:
Get 2 , 7footers 3, 9footers 1, 10footer just like the hall I learned in, Archie Moore loved bank pool, always played him ,golf on the 10footer.
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So more 7 footer than 9 ?
 
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vincett said:
And that is where it is so wrong, a dominant 9 foot players are more likely to also dominant on a 7 footer.

So more 7 footer than 9 ?
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The 7 footers only need 2 to run a weekly bar table tourney, once they have a 9 footer to play on you get them hooked for practice, paying by the hour verse change per game. Could offer monthly club rate for 9footers say 100 buck for unlimited 12 to 6pm.they buy food,drinks just my 2 cent.
 
my mentor felt that a 7 foot table was just as tough as a nine, because the balls were the same size but the table smaller so they occupied a greater percentage of the table area. granted shots aren't as long, but the ease of snookering/playing defense was greater on a bar box.
 
Willymakaball said:
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The 7 footers only need 2 to run a weekly bar table tourney, once they have a 9 footer to play on you get them hooked for practice, paying by the hour verse change per game. Could offer monthly club rate for 9footers say 100 buck for unlimited 12 to 6pm.they buy food,drinks just my 2 cent.
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I actually rarely see people pay to practice on 9 footers, given that most of leagues and tourneys are on 7 footers. I casually see some people playing on 9 footers here and there. But unless 7 footers are all camped out, otherwise, I rarely see people rent out 9'
 
The Old Jaybird said:
my mentor felt that a 7 foot table was just as tough as a nine, because the balls were the same size but the table smaller so they occupied a greater percentage of the table area. granted shots aren't as long, but the ease of snookering/playing defense was greater on a bar box.
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I play a lot on bar boxes, and occasionally on 9ft tables when I can.

I'd say for the amateur, a 9ft table is daunting and kills their confidence in their shot making, so it winds up being a much harder table for them. The crowding of a 7ft foot table isn't a problem for them yet, their skills aren't there for it to matter.


I noticed for myself the 9ft tables became easier to manage when I got confident in my shot making. Turns out, if you can pocket a ball from 6.5ft away, you can also make that same ball 8.5ft away, nothing changes except the perception in your mind. Once the anxiety of the table being a little longer was gone, it felt like I had room to breathe and open my stroke. I find myself running out more because I am getting better leaves even if my positions aren't spot on. Coming across a shot line on a 9ft table gives you a lot more room for error than a 7ft table. I also noticed I can really get a consistent good spread on the break which leads to more break and runs. On a 7ft table, unless I find the perfect break speed, the balls always find some groups or die on a rail because of how many times the balls hit eachother and the rails. It's like a bad pinball machine. I've experimented with soft breaks on diamond 7ft tables, and I've never been able to consistently pocket a ball and get a good spread. It feels like I am either getting a good spread with no balls dropped, and my opponent runs out, or I smash it and pocket a few but have some problems. I don't have half as many of those breaks on 9ft tables where I can let it out and not have problems.

Now days, I just get my ass kicked on 7ft and 9ft tables, but mainly play 7ft tables cause there's very few 9fters around, and all my leagues play 7ft.

If I ever have a home with enough room, getting a 9ft no doubt.
 
RidgeRaider said:
I play a lot on bar boxes, and occasionally on 9ft tables when I can.

I'd say for the amateur, a 9ft table is daunting and kills their confidence in their shot making, so it winds up being a much harder table for them. The crowding of a 7ft foot table isn't a problem for them yet, their skills aren't there for it to matter.


I noticed for myself the 9ft tables became easier to manage when I got confident in my shot making. Turns out, if you can pocket a ball from 6.5ft away, you can also make that same ball 8.5ft away, nothing changes except the perception in your mind. Once the anxiety of the table being a little longer was gone, it felt like I had room to breathe and open my stroke. I find myself running out more because I am getting better leaves even if my positions aren't spot on. Coming across a shot line on a 9ft table gives you a lot more room for error than a 7ft table. I also noticed I can really get a consistent good spread on the break which leads to more break and runs. On a 7ft table, unless I find the perfect break speed, the balls always find some groups or die on a rail because of how many times the balls hit eachother and the rails. It's like a bad pinball machine. I've experimented with soft breaks on diamond 7ft tables, and I've never been able to consistently pocket a ball and get a good spread. It feels like I am either getting a good spread with no balls dropped, and my opponent runs out, or I smash it and pocket a few but have some problems. I don't have half as many of those breaks on 9ft tables where I can let it out and not have problems.

Now days, I just get my ass kicked on 7ft and 9ft tables, but mainly play 7ft tables cause there's very few 9fters around, and all my leagues play 7ft.

If I ever have a home with enough room, getting a 9ft no doubt.
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What about a pool hall ? Would you play or pay for a 7' or 9' ? What majority people would be comfortable on ? Possibly 7' ?
 
vincett said:
What about a pool hall ? Would you play or pay for a 7' or 9' ? What majority people would be comfortable on ? Possibly 7' ?
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If it's a good 9ft, I'd rather play on a 9ft all day. But, it's gotta be a good table. I'll take a 7ft diamond over a poorly set up Olhausen 9ft any day.

There's a place not close but close enough I go once in a while, they have some GC3 9ft that play like absolute dreams. Actually had the pros on those tables many a times in the 90s and 2000s.

The place close to me with 9ft olhausens, painful to play on so I choose the diamonds.
 
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