Cue shaft talk

[SeniorTom]

I sure wouldn't mind having one of these shafts, but I will never spend $600 for one. I don't think it would do that much for my game, except that it would be enjoyable to try out. People often look to equipment to solve their stroke problems, and especially potting balls, but I don't think this would really make that much difference, this particular shaft and the price it costs. What type of shaft do you use and why? Would you spend this kind of money for a shaft? What price range do you think is fair for a shaft like this?
First comment by one who owns this shaft:
"I really like the shaft looks nice and make my stroke looks so easy"

Triple 60 Whyte Carbon Uni-Loc Thread Wood Grain Carbon Play Shaft

Experience the pinnacle of performance with the Uni-Loc Thread Whyte Carbon Pearl Essence Play Shaft. Dual-Core Carbon Construction, Micro-Compression technology and Multi-Density Fill Pattern come together to create a distinguished white finish shaft that is as luxuriously elegant as it is...

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[garczar]

'makes my stroke look so easy'??? wtf is that supposed to mean. 600bux is ridiculous. cf shafts have been on the market long enough for the makers to more than recoup their investment costs. no reason for these to be higher than 300bux. just like golf, people try to buy a game they'll never have.

 

[Sealegs50]

I owned and played with a Gus Szamboti cue from 2006-2013. When I offered the Gus for sale, I had a price for the cue that included 2 original shafts and a separate price for each shaft made by Barry for that cue butt. I asked $500 each for the Barry shafts and that was all potential buyers balked at. Not long after that Revos were selling for $500 and nobody was batting an eyelash at that price.

I still own the shafts made by Barry Szamboti and they are my most often played shafts. I’m so glad nobody bought either of them back then. They are not for sale.

 

[Brother Ron]

Shafts won't improve your skill level, but after 31 years of use I am replacing mine with a new shaft because it has developed a couple dings over the years.

 

[SeniorTom]

'makes my stroke look so easy'??? wtf is that supposed to mean.

I'm not sure what it means, probably something like "I can shoot better because it provides a better stroke for me" although this is not true, you can't purchase a good stroke. Funny thing is, as much as I'd like to have one of these shafts, I have been hedging backwards towards playing with a laminated wood shaft. I can't imagine buying another shaft would make my game any better than it is right now.

600bux is ridiculous. cf shafts have been on the market long enough for the makers to more than recoup their investment costs. no reason for these to be higher than 300bux. just like golf, people try to buy a game they'll never have.

$600 is ridiculous!

 

[SeniorTom]

Shafts won't improve your skill level, but after 31 years of use I am replacing mine with a new shaft because it has developed a couple dings over the years.

I think that is quite reasonable to buy a new shaft, as having dings gets in my head while going through a pre-shot routine or actually shooting.

 

[middleofnowhere]

Shafts won't improve your skill level, but after 31 years of use I am replacing mine with a new shaft because it has developed a couple dings over the years.

You might be surprised I've owned a number of cues with multiple shafts. There's always one shaft that seems to be the one and you can just go back and forth and feel the difference instantly..

 

[middleofnowhere]

This makes me wonder about CF shafts. I always see all the players wiping them down constantly. They're using gloves why does the shaft seem sticky to them? Do you ever treat the shaft with anything such as a silicone base spray?

 

[SeniorTom]

This makes me wonder about CF shafts. I always see all the players wiping them down constantly. They're using gloves why does the shaft seem sticky to them? Do you ever treat the shaft with anything such as a silicone base spray?

I have a couple Rhino carbon fiber shafts, and I have used a real Fine steel wool to smooth them out. It really does a nice job, although I think many people would be afraid to do this because they might damage the shaft, but it always works for me. I don't know if I try it on a $600 shaft though, and I probably wouldn't ever spend $600 on any shaft.

 

[middleofnowhere]

I have a couple Rhino carbon fiber shafts, and I have used a real Fine steel wool to smooth them out. It really does a nice job, although I think many people would be afraid to do this because they might damage the shaft, but it always works for me. I don't know if I try it on a $600 shaft though, and I probably wouldn't ever spend $600 on any shaft.

Wow I would be afraid to do that. 0000 steel wool is about the equivalent of 400 sandpaper. I can't really picture what would be happening when you do that that would make it smoother other than it's leaving a powdery residue which is why it feels better. In that case probably just use powder like the old days.

I don't know about the cue shaft but I own things that are made of carbon fiber and I couldn't imagine what it would do to them if I started rubbing them with 0000 steel wool. You would probably be better off just paste waxing the shaft and buffing it good. I hope some knowledgeable people chime in here on the proper care and maintenance of a CF shaft.
I found this on line that makes sense

How to Care for a Carbon Fiber Pool Cue: Tips and Best Practices - Seybert's Billiards Supply https://share.google/tiwKOL48BstINFMLD

 

[Cue Alchemist]

You might be surprised I've owned a number of cues with multiple shafts. There's always one shaft that seems to be the one and you can just go back and forth and feel the difference instantly..

I do this too, i just keep the pin on the butt, the same size thread. Its funny on certain shafts, your arm just remembers lol

 

[Sealegs50]

Shafts won't improve your skill level, but after 31 years of use I am replacing mine with a new shaft because it has developed a couple dings over the years.

I assume you’re aware, but minor dings in wood shafts can usually be repaired.

 

[dendweller]

I sure wouldn't mind having one of these shafts, but I will never spend $600 for one. I don't think it would do that much for my game, except that it would be enjoyable to try out. People often look to equipment to solve their stroke problems, and especially potting balls, but I don't think this would really make that much difference, this particular shaft and the price it costs. What type of shaft do you use and why? Would you spend this kind of money for a shaft? What price range do you think is fair for a shaft like this?
First comment by one who owns this shaft:
"I really like the shaft looks nice and make my stroke looks so easy"

Triple 60 Whyte Carbon Uni-Loc Thread Wood Grain Carbon Play Shaft

Experience the pinnacle of performance with the Uni-Loc Thread Whyte Carbon Pearl Essence Play Shaft. Dual-Core Carbon Construction, Micro-Compression technology and Multi-Density Fill Pattern come together to create a distinguished white finish shaft that is as luxuriously elegant as it is...

seyberts.com

If you want a white one there's one in the for sale section at half the price.

 

[dendweller]

I sure wouldn't mind having one of these shafts, but I will never spend $600 for one. I don't think it would do that much for my game, except that it would be enjoyable to try out. People often look to equipment to solve their stroke problems, and especially potting balls, but I don't think this would really make that much difference, this particular shaft and the price it costs. What type of shaft do you use and why? Would you spend this kind of money for a shaft? What price range do you think is fair for a shaft like this?
First comment by one who owns this shaft:
"I really like the shaft looks nice and make my stroke looks so easy"

Triple 60 Whyte Carbon Uni-Loc Thread Wood Grain Carbon Play Shaft

Experience the pinnacle of performance with the Uni-Loc Thread Whyte Carbon Pearl Essence Play Shaft. Dual-Core Carbon Construction, Micro-Compression technology and Multi-Density Fill Pattern come together to create a distinguished white finish shaft that is as luxuriously elegant as it is...

seyberts.com

By the way, if you don't wear a glove, you may need one with these, I believe the exterior is painted and may be a little tacky.

 

[SeniorTom]

Wow I would be afraid to do that. 0000 steel wool is about the equivalent of 400 sandpaper. I can't really picture what would be happening when you do that that would make it smoother other than it's leaving a powdery residue which is why it feels better. In that case probably just use powder like the old days.

I don't know about the cue shaft but I own things that are made of carbon fiber and I couldn't imagine what it would do to them if I started rubbing them with 0000 steel wool. You would probably be better off just paste waxing the shaft and buffing it good. I hope some knowledgeable people chime in here on the proper care and maintenance of a CF shaft.
I found this on line that makes sense

How to Care for a Carbon Fiber Pool Cue: Tips and Best Practices - Seybert's Billiards Supply https://share.google/tiwKOL48BstINFMLD

Well I did it, and the shaft is fine. I had a little nick in the shaft up by the tip that was caused by a tip shaper. I buffed it out. It took a long long time to get it out, that's how unabrasive the steel wool is to these shafts. Probably wouldn't do it with my Pechauer Rogue, but with the rhino I didn't mind trying. Gives it a good feel!

 

[j2pac]

I picked up my AVID shafts (new) for $130.00 a piece. They do everything I'm capable of...

 

[SeniorTom]

I picked up my AVID shafts (new) for $130.00 a piece. They do everything I'm capable of...

I play Cuetec as well, in fact it was my first cue I purchased, with the Avid Era 12.75mm wood shaft. One of my favorite cues, and you can't beat the price!

 

[j2pac]

I play Cuetec as well, in fact it was my first cue I purchased, with the Avid Era 12.75mm wood shaft. One of my favorite cues, and you can't beat the price!

I tried the AVID after trying Carbon Fiber, Kielwood, etc. I prefer the AVID 12.75 as well. I don't know why...I just like it better.

 

[Brother Ron]

I assume you’re aware, but minor dings in wood shafts can usually be repaired.

Yes, but I am also going from the original maple shaft to a lower deflection shaft. I tend to use a lot of aggressive spin and am curious to see how the accuracy and control will be affected by a low deflection shaft. A couple people here as well as a Meucci Rep have said that a lower deflection shaft helps improve accuracy when using aggressive english/spin.

 

[j2pac]

Yes, but I am also going from the original maple shaft to a lower deflection shaft. I tend to use a lot of aggressive spin and am curious to see how the accuracy and control will be affected by a low deflection shaft. A couple people here as well as a Meucci Rep have said that a lower deflection shaft helps improve accuracy when using aggressive english/spin.

Once you adjust your aim slightly, you'll be just fine. I don't know that the shaft in and of itself will "improve" accuracy. The accuracy improvement will come from dialing in both your aim, and your stroke.