Gorst dishes on US Open, lopsided prize funds, long race with Filler

Jimbojim said:
Sorry for hijacking the thread but...

I know people are right when saying that Joe Rogan playing in the US Open would attract viewers but isn't the game beautiful enough to attract viewers on its own? People that would tune in to watch Rogan aren't going to watch the other events he's not participating in.

Why do we always feel we need to have another Hollywood movie about pool with Top Tier actors or a celebrity playing in an event to increase popularity?! They wouldn't even be real fans in the first place!
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Got any other ideas?
 
Taxi said:
I'm also not thrilled with most of Rogan's political views, other than his take on the Iran debacle, but the last thing that pool needs is some sort of political test. Rogan obviously loves pool, has done a lot to promote pool, and from what I've seen he's not that bad a player. I'd love to see him enter the Open for the publicity it'd attract to the event. Two thumbs up.
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Maybe he could draw that Andy guy, I think it’s Goldstein
 
middleofnowhere said:
Reminds me of the surfer's. They chase waves entering contests but no real chance to make any money. They were called "Surf bums". Then you also had "Tennis bums". Maybe we need to coin a new term "Pool bums".
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I don't follow pro surfing that closely, but I think the top pros can make over $1 million a year when factoring in sponsorship
 
westcoast said:
I don't follow pro surfing that closely, but I think the top pros can make over $1 million a year when factoring in sponsorship
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That's what I was talking about in my other post. Players in most single player sports make a majority from endorsements. Team sports are different because they are salaried.
  • Income: According to Surfer Today, only about 100 professional surfers make a sustainable, full-time living from competition.
Keeping pool in mind, depending on prize money and nothing else is tough. Too much competition for limited prize money, plus paying expenses.
 
VVP said:
Annual revenues of $6 million is not enough to cover salary for 200 employees worldwide and expenditures. Predator does not make its income statement available so I would not give much credence to Internet search values. The same internet search says that the carbon fiber market is about $400 million and Predator is a major producer, so go figure.
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jbart65 said:
You make a good point. I do think $6 million sounds light. Very light, in fact. So I dug a little further.

I imagine Predator makes most of its money from cues, though it is of course branching out. Let's say it only got revenue from cues. Predator would have to sell 6,000 cues worldwide, at a cost of $1,000 each, to get to $6 million in revenue.

I've got to figure Predator sells at least 25,000 cues a year in the US alone. Maybe 50,000 or more worldwide. That would put revenue at $50 million a year before the sale of accessories.

Throw in cases, chalk, clothes etc. Maybe that's another $15 million to $25 million.

Looked at it this way. perhaps $60 million to $75 million a year is a conservative estimate. I'd guess $100 million in annual revenue would be toward the higher end.
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LOL 6M ?:ROFLMAO: Probably just for 1 Predator company . They likely have multiple companies one for each LOB like Predator Cues etc.
I will be shocked if Predator as a group bill less than 9 figures a year.
I mean quick back of envelope -200 employees @ manufacturing RPE $370K that is already $74M
Take labor cost $60K a year that is $12M into low manufacturing% say 15% that is $80M

Say $80M , marketing about 5% that is $4M .
 
tournament directors would do more for pool if they gave invites to celebrities with entry, and free room and board or at least something.

then a chance for some video or tv coverage then or in the future.

and companies like predator. imagine getting a celeb playing on video of some kind with your cue brand and maybe shirt.

like a sports figure. or movie star.

and have a celebrity tournament. just them.
 
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