small tight pockets in one pocket good or bad?

So, “new school” why don’t you post up some video of you playing the 9ball ghost on a table set up the way you describe.

I’m sure we’ll all learn something.

Lou Figueroa
You doubt the feasibility of it? What would me doing it have to do with anything? I'm not pool Jesus. You'd learn, I was able or I wasn't able. That's pretty ridiculous for cut and dried requisites for the up and coming.
 
You doubt the feasibility of it? What would me doing it have to do with anything? I'm not pool Jesus. You'd learn, I was able or I wasn't able. That's pretty ridiculous for cut and dried requisites for the up and coming.

Just wanted to give you the opportunity to demonstrate to all here the wonderfulness of those itty-bitty pockets you’re advocating.

Do or not do. Can do, or cannot do.

Lou Figueroa
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Went many times while my mom was living in Burbank.

Sometimes I’d play 1pocket, other time 3C with the league guys, played Richie there. I think once the house guy wanted to call Wayne to play me but I had to get back to Burbank.

Lou Figueroa

Burbank is old stomping grounds, recall Bakers on HollyWeird Way to the South of Magnolia.

They were nothing compaired to Noth HollyWeird Billiards on Magnolia to the East of Lankershim.

That entire area is horrible now, California’s Social problems n policies reined.
 
Just wanted to give you the opportunity to demonstrate to all here the wonderfulness of those itty-bitty pockets you’re advocating.

Do or not do. Can do, or cannot do.

Lou Figueroa
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Not interested. I've left most of the details in various threads if anyone wants to learn.
 
So, “new school” why don’t you post up some video of you playing the 9ball ghost on a table set up the way you describe.

I’m sure we’ll all learn something.

Lou Figueroa
This wasn’t directed at me but I echo the sentiment of who it was directed at so I’ll field it. This what pros play on standard these days. I’m not delusional I know I’m a big dog to the ghost on this equipment, but if I can win playing my A game that’s what I want to strive for. Do you want to tee off from the close tee or the far tee it’s up to you. But for me I don’t think I would’ve gotten to this level unless I was forced to by the tough equipment so I like it
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I’m not so sure that what the pros play on has squadousch to do with the vast majority of us here or anywhere else.

And, having been to my share of big events, I’m not so sure smaller pockets are as prevalent as some here are trying to say.

Having said that, there was a time in my life when I would practice with pool balls on a 10’ Brunswick snooker table; beaten the locals on 4” pockets on their pet 1pocket table at Comet Billiards in NJ; and won a local 1pocket event in St Louis when we briefly had a room on the East side with 4” pockets.

IOWs, I get it, but when the pockets are too small it’s not pool and it ain’t teeing off the black tees. You end up having to play something else.

Lou Figueroa
 
Like I said, not the case here in SoCal. 4” pockets as far as the eye can see and rooms are packed
took that to mean the pool rooms in s.c all had 4 inch pockets on all their tables. which as this goes on its just some tables or their tournament ones, and only some of the pool rooms.

and all those rooms are packed you showed two pics. one with some kind of tournament with lots of players standing around. and another with just two tables in action one with you alone on it.

in any case 4 inch pockets eliminate rec. players for the most part. and even decent players tend to start falling off those places.
and no pool room lives long on just hard core players.

but good luck to you in your endeavors with tight pockets.
 
I’m not so sure that what the pros play on has squadousch to do with the vast majority of us here or anywhere else.

And, having been to my share of big events, I’m not so sure smaller pockets are as prevalent as some here are trying to say.

Having said that, there was a time in my life when I would practice with pool balls on a 10’ Brunswick snooker table; beaten the locals on 4” pockets on their pet 1pocket table at Comet Billiards in NJ; and won a local 1pocket event in St Louis when we briefly had a room on the East side with 4” pockets.

IOWs, I get it, but when the pockets are too small it’s not pool and it ain’t teeing off the black tees. You end up having to play something else.

Lou Figueroa
I do think that professional level specs should play a part in what equipment is used, but at the end of the day it’s really up to you. Baseball moved the mound, but not for little league. NBA moved the 3 point line but not for college. You can play on whatever you think suits you best that’s the beauty of it. Maybe play on valley bar tables with 5” pockets then I’m sure you’ll feel good about your game. I like the challenge personally. You can fit your game to the equipment, or you can fit the equipment to your game.
 
true but unfortunately many pool rooms emulate what the pros play on and that drives away the rec. players which can be a big part of profits.


not like the sports you mentioned that the amateurs didn't adjust to change over to the pro's specs . like pool tables are changing or have.
 
took that to mean the pool rooms in s.c all had 4 inch pockets on all their tables. which as this goes on its just some tables or their tournament ones, and only some of the pool rooms.

and all those rooms are packed you showed two pics. one with some kind of tournament with lots of players standing around. and another with just two tables in action one with you alone on it.

in any case 4 inch pockets eliminate rec. players for the most part. and even decent players tend to start falling off those places.
and no pool room lives long on just hard core players.

but good luck to you in your endeavors with tight pockets.
That's like saying Stradivarious killed fiddlin'. :geek:

It didn't.

This wasn’t directed at me but I echo the sentiment of who it was directed at so I’ll field it. This what pros play on standard these days. I’m not delusional I know I’m a big dog to the ghost on this equipment, but if I can win playing my A game that’s what I want to strive for. Do you want to tee off from the close tee or the far tee it’s up to you. But for me I don’t think I would’ve gotten to this level unless I was forced to by the tough equipment so I like it
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Great shooting! I thoroughly enjoyed that video. Customers is one thing but, it's almost comical that the negative paradigm being fronted is based on errors the proponents would make - on their brand of easy.

Playing the ghost is a dress rehearsal. There are more competitive dynamics at work and in play than simply honing your long shots. Props.
 
I do think that professional level specs should play a part in what equipment is used, but at the end of the day it’s really up to you. Baseball moved the mound, but not for little league. NBA moved the 3 point line but not for college. You can play on whatever you think suits you best that’s the beauty of it. Maybe play on valley bar tables with 5” pockets then I’m sure you’ll feel good about your game. I like the challenge personally. You can fit your game to the equipment, or you can fit the equipment to your game.

I play on tough Diamonds -- that's good enough for me.

Haven't played on a Valley or any 7' table in decades. IOWs, there is a middle ground. It does not have to be one extreme or the udder ;-)

Lou Figueroa
 
Really poor analogy.

It's like saying a Szamboti killed pool, which no one is saying.

Lou Figueroa
just sayin'
A Gus may be analogous to a Strad but their relevance to the respective genres are not of equal merit.
Strads not killing fiddling is a very good analogy. A good Strad enables violin-ing in all its splendor and glory and produces it for those able to traverse its wonders. Those not as musically endowed will produce the more common squeaks, squawks, and clams in the attempt - the fault being in the player not the instrument.

Maybe it's because virtuosic pooling hasn't hit the mainstream that the analogy seems vague. Super tight pockets add context to and reveal precision execution. Buckets will look like pool but allow all manner of sloppiness and crudeness - all swept under the "can't play perfect" rug.
If anything will kill pool, it's the bad guys; not precision equipment.
 
no, what kills pool is if the rec. players dont come in and get interested in the game it cant grow.

bad players become good and great players. if you ruin the starting experience they never get into the game. as can be seen in the last decades as so many pool rooms died off. and the average is much higher.
 
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