Seeing the contact point on the object ball.

maha said:
i understand all of it just cannot comprehend any of it.
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Um, I don't understand (comprehend?) why you made the the distinction.....

Or is it me being a little dense?
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Even for Smorg representatives, Straightline's aiming method may have utility finding the aiming line when object ball is very close to cue ball: Find object-ball contact point and the midpoint between object and cue balls. Connect the two points --- that is the aiming line before the center-point roll to cue-ball center. If the balls are very close together that last adjustment step may be ignored.

It is a rough estimate for me.
 
Paul Bell said:
Even for Smorg representatives, Straightline's aiming method may have utility finding the aiming line when object ball is very close to cue ball: Find object-ball contact point and the midpoint between object and cue balls. Connect the two points --- that is the aiming line before the center-point roll to cue-ball center. If the balls are very close together that last adjustment step may be ignored.

It is a rough estimate for me.
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None of this makes any sense
 
dquarasr said:
I've read all 9 pages so far. I dunno, I'm perplexed. While I understand the various methods to aim, with my brain and my perceptions, I can't imagine a simpler way to aim then to visualize the ghost ball, and aim the center (bottom, if you will) of the CB to the center of the imaginary GB.

When I was first learning how to aim, on some shots on which I simply could not visualize the GB consistently, I'd ID the contact points, then link them together, then from that determine the position of the GB, then aim at that. From that Reid/straightline diagram, I aim using the black line where it intersects with the yellow line. If I was a little unsure, I'd visualize the red line, then translate that to the black line, then shoot.

I understand everyone learns and perceives things differently, but for me, "see it, shoot it" works. I just picture the GB in my head, and aim the CB to it, even on shots where the center of the GB is well off the boundaries of the OB. And this is from someone who can manage to overcomplicate *anything*. Luckily, GB and aiming work for me.
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Many carded snooker players claim ghost ball works for them too. Ghost ball - Ray Martin? is a proponent. If you imagine ghost ball allows playing on that level, well it takes 99.99% of that level besides.

When your head is empty enough for serious pool, a few lines that won't quit working are everything. CPG is about consistency.
 
Paul Bell said:
Even for Smorg representatives, Straightline's aiming method may have utility finding the aiming line when object ball is very close to cue ball: Find object-ball contact point and the midpoint between object and cue balls. Connect the two points --- that is the aiming line before the center-point roll to cue-ball center. If the balls are very close together that last adjustment step may be ignored.

It is a rough estimate for me.
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CPG is easier to illustrate with the balls close together. It doesn't fail at full table proportions.

Since you brought up balls close together, CPG is also the best way I've found to make shots inside of 6". Imagine the balls nearly frozen. In trying to make a thin legal hit, what do you look for? You may peer at the edges but all players will automatically point the stick in the right direction and shoot on that basis.
Now imagine the balls a half inch apart with a thin cut to the far corner. Fractions wash out. You're nearly on the ghost ball. What do you do?
Rhetorical question. CPG can still provide the stick line. If there's enough space between the balls to visualize the contact lattice, you'll have your stick line.
 
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Last bump.

CPG at around 180 degrees is a much simpler animal. Yes the lines become an interference pattern so leave them out if you need to. Check the line of centers. Chances are the balls won't line up. If that's the case, parallel tangents or even rifle aiming will do.
 
No such thing as last bump.
jasonlaus said:
All you 400 fargos still gotta hit the aim point
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Yeah the aim point is now right smack on the cue ball. But yes CPG is not magic. There is a learning curve and process. Good news is once you get the stick line right, it's just a matter of not dicking with it. Like every other system I suppose.
 
straightline said:
No such thing as last bump.

Yeah the aim point is now right smack on the cue ball. But yes CPG is not magic. There is a learning curve and process. Good news is once you get the stick line right, it's just a matter of not dicking with it. Like every other system I suppose.
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I just point and shoot, after hitting millions of balls that kinda happens. Never used a "system"
 
I never had any success with the ghost ball method because my mind will not ‘see’ the center of an imaginary ball, especially when that center is off in space. I did have some limited success with the double the distance or overlap method. But again, once the object ball was very far away the distance to be doubled became almost imperceptable. I then went with the HAMB system and started ‘seeing’ angles. 😃. Now I really just recognize the angle difference between object ball to pocket line and cue ball to object ball line. It isn’t a system at all, and certainly isn’t a scientific method. I just see the object ball to pocket line as an imaginary rail and shoot just like I was hitting that rail shot from wherever my cue ball sits. (Of course slight adjustments are needed depending on what spin is being used, but those adjustments are made from experience learned with HAMB.)
 
look guys if you spend the time playing pool and seeing the shots you will learn sooner how to instinctively just get down on the shot and know the correct place to it.

no way can anyone go and try to visualize shots by adjusting your aim along the way.

you learned to walk by doing it enough to find its automatic without thinking. same with pool.
 
irspow said:
I just see the object ball to pocket line as an imaginary rail and shoot just like I was hitting that rail shot from wherever my cue ball sits.
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When I first started playing pool this is how I aimed. I don't know when I changed over to ghost ball but the methods are pretty similar. If I am not confident about a shot, I sometimes (but rarely) use the imaginary rail as a confirmation that my GB position is correct.
 
ShootingArts said:
When I have to aim at a point I can't see I walk to where the point I need to hit the object ball is. Then I lock onto that spot with my eyes and walk back to where I am shooting from. Pool tables don't move and if I really feel the need I can slide a hand on the outside of the table. Might take a few tries at first to not lose your attention on the spot but without much practice it works.

Hu
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That closely describes what I do
 
After you Eye magin the shot.
You Gotta Feel the shot.
A favorite enquiring coach asked me, "can you feel it?" When I proposed the cross corner bank as the cut shots available had potential to scratch.
POW Splat is my favorite sound. Well on the pool table.
Using the cue as a paint brush. Paint a Masterpiece.
Fun stuff.
 
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