Video as a tool.

[Mensabum]

I can now say without reservation that video of one's play is an important diagnostic tool and for any player who hasn't done this yet, I highly recommend it.
Being a stubborn jackass,
always thot I was a Cueball last player. Video of me says otherwise. Right B4 I pull the trigger, my eyes veer up to the object ball. All these years....
Just goes to show you. Only tool here is M'wah..

 

[Rusty in Montana]

Billy Saunders was trying to put together a pool playing video many years ago , and he had me shooting a few different shots with and without english so people could learn different aspects of the game and how english effects things .

That been quite some time ago and I can honestly say that the video was never finished to the best of my knowledge .
With that said that was the first and last time I've ever played pool in front of a video camera .
But i feel that it can help you figure out what you're doing correctly and what you need to work on .

 

[straightline]

I can now say without reservation that video of one's play is an important diagnostic tool and for any player who hasn't done this yet, I highly recommend it.
Being a stubborn jackass,
always thot I was a Cueball last player. Video of me says otherwise. Right B4 I pull the trigger, my eyes veer up to the object ball. All these years....
Just goes to show you. Only tool here is M'wah..

Try frozen to the rail with minimal angle with lots of english. The stuff you wanna bunt but gotta move the ball around.

 

[Mensabum]

Try frozen to the rail with minimal angle with lots of english. The stuff you wanna bunt but gotta move the ball around.

Tough nuts to crack.

 

[Mensabum]

Billy Saunders was trying to put together a pool playing video many years ago , and he had me shooting a few different shots with and without english so people could learn different aspects of the game and how english effects things .

That been quite some time ago and I can honestly say that the video was never finished to the best of my knowledge .
With that said that was the first and last time I've ever played pool in front of a video camera .
But i feel that it can help you figure out what you're doing correctly and what you need to work on .

The findings certainly surprised me!!

 

[straightline]

Tough nuts to crack.

Force yourself to stay down on the CB as you pop it. This was one of the miracles of CBL for me. I even backwards engineered the theory from it. (I don't actually remember but it's gotta be 50/50 right? )
The theory is the shot is usually so iffy there's built in doubt as you shoot it. Lo and behold, I might be close to 100% on 'em. Proving to me I know the shot, I just don't like the looks of it. lol

 

[George the Greek]

I had a friend do a video years ago when I was playing like crap and I went home and watched it over and over. All it was was being a lazy slop and didn't take long to figure it out.

 

[dtroup64]

I record video of myself at least once a week. Then I try my best to focus on what I perceive as myself doing wrong. Between watching my own errors, and help from a terrific teacher on this forum to whom I've sent the video for help, I've gone from regularly losing to 420s to having won my last three chip tournaments, and beaten 3 straight mid to upper 500s in our in-house 9 ball league.

One step at a time...

 

[Tennesseejoe]

Try frozen to the rail with minimal angle with lots of english. The stuff you wanna bunt but gotta move the ball around.

Video please. I am trying to visualize the original position and various results.

 

[Mensabum]

Force yourself to stay down on the CB as you pop it. This was one of the miracles of CBL for me. I even backwards engineered the theory from it. (I don't actually remember but it's gotta be 50/50 right? )
The theory is the shot is usually so iffy there's built in doubt as you shoot it. Lo and behold, I might be close to 100% on 'em. Proving to me I know the shot, I just don't like the looks of it. lol

Absolutely!!
The hardest part for me was getting rid of that immediate negative connotation in my head when left with one of those shots, either from a bad roll or just blowing shape.
Once I learned how to do that, the balls fell.
Good insight my friend.

 

[Mensabum]

I had a friend do a video years ago when I was playing like crap and I went home and watched it over and over. All it was was being a lazy slop and didn't take long to figure it out.

Cutting corners on the fundamentals creeps in faster than most players recognize.
Funny thing is, they're usually quick fixes.

 

[Mensabum]

I record video of myself at least once a week. Then I try my best to focus on what I perceive as myself doing wrong. Between watching my own errors, and help from a terrific teacher on this forum to whom I've sent the video for help, I've gone from regularly losing to 420s to having won my last three chip tournaments, and beaten 3 straight mid to upper 500s in our in-house 9 ball league.

One step at a time...

Good luck with your progression!!

 

[Mensabum]

Video please. I am trying to visualize the original position and various results.

Imagine a long, damn near straight in that you need to put a ton of spin on to get shape. Idk many players who don't dread those shots. I work on them. Along with super thin cross table cuts. Sharpens my eye for contact points.
B4 low deflection shafts came out, shots like those straightline proposed were a crap shoot. If you didn't know your wand well, pocketing % was low.

 

[Mensabum]

Force yourself to stay down on the CB as you pop it. This was one of the miracles of CBL for me. I even backwards engineered the theory from it. (I don't actually remember but it's gotta be 50/50 right? )
The theory is the shot is usually so iffy there's built in doubt as you shoot it. Lo and behold, I might be close to 100% on 'em. Proving to me I know the shot, I just don't like the looks of it. lol

Compliments to the Chef!!

 

[straightline]

Video please. I am trying to visualize the original position and various results.

If I stumble across one I'll be sure and post it!

Basic scenario:

8 ball frozen to bottom rail. 9 ball frozen right in the middle of head rail.
You land two feet from the 8 ball, 1.5" off the rail.
How do you get to the 9 ball.

That one.

 

[Nature Boy]

I taught golf for many years, so when I started taking this game seriously, using video was natural. As we say in golf, feel isn’t real.

 

[Nature Boy]

I record video of myself at least once a week. Then I try my best to focus on what I perceive as myself doing wrong. Between watching my own errors, and help from a terrific teacher on this forum to whom I've sent the video for help, I've gone from regularly losing to 420s to having won my last three chip tournaments, and beaten 3 straight mid to upper 500s in our in-house 9 ball league.

One step at a time...

Care to divulge said instructor?

 

[Mensabum]

If I stumble across one I'll be sure and post it!

Basic scenario:

8 ball frozen to bottom rail. 9 ball frozen right in the middle of head rail.
You land two feet from the 8 ball, 1.5" off the rail.
How do you get to the 9 ball.

That one.

My mistake.
I thot you were referring to those shots where the CB was locked up on the rail and you had to shoot down table, pocket the OB and get shape on a ball there.
Learning how to hit shots with CB on the rail or jacked up over another ball, what have you, were always the hardest for me, until I started to practice them.
14:1 helped with the 'over another ball' shot. That happens frequently while playing. To me anyway. Some days I can't keep whitey off the rail. Figured I'd better get good at hitting the top of the CB or else. I rarely hit one badly now. Haven't miscued on those shots in a long time.
Adjusting my bridge hand worked wonders for on the rail shots.
A solid, consistent rail bridge may seem elementary to most, but I still see high level fargo's struggling to get set on a rail shot. That should be automatic. No thot involved.

 

[straightline]

My mistake.
I thot you were referring to those shots where the CB was locked up on the rail and you had to shoot down table, pocket the OB and get shape on a ball there.
Learning how to hit shots with CB on the rail or jacked up over another ball, what have you, were always the hardest for me, until I started to practice them.
14:1 helped with the 'over another ball' shot. That happens frequently while playing. To me anyway. Some days I can't keep whitey off the rail. Figured I'd better get good at hitting the top of the CB or else. I rarely hit one badly now. Haven't miscued on those shots in a long time.
Adjusting my bridge hand worked wonders for on the rail shots.
A solid, consistent rail bridge may seem elementary to most, but I still see high level fargo's struggling to get set on a rail shot. That should be automatic. No thot involved.

Can throw this in that bag. Switch to the hand that fits. IOW, right handed/left bridge for the rail on your right and left handed/right bridge for the rail on your left.

 

[gregcantrall]

Switch to the hand that fits.

Well the other hand combined with video is a good way to go. When I first endeavored to train my left hand to shoot I was shooting too good for the local ring game with the Right hand. The offer of, "I will shoot left handed", got me back into the ring game. Well for a little whil soon the offer was met with a smile and chuckle and NO!, The video evidence was that my left hand game was more solid because the basics were better. That of course had my weak hand teaching my lead hand. While I still shoot predominantly right the balls position on the table often fit the other hand. Switching seamlessly is a big advantage and help maintain a rhythm when "In The Zone".