Billiards Digest April 2017 - Bob Jewett - Big Shots

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DrCue'sProtege

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When I go to the Amish restaurant and eat I usually take an older pool magazine and read through it. Today I had the subject magazine and ran across Bob Jewett's article on Big Shots on pages 24 & 25. He listed seven (7) shots that you need for rotation games.

So after I got home I went to the table and set up all seven of the shots he had diagrammed. I shot them all one time. I made four of them on the first try. Here's the ones I missed:

Diagram Two - shot it several times, never got the CB to draw back. This is an extremely difficult shot for me.
Diagram Four - Shot it three times before I made it and got the CB in decent position for the 9B.
Diagram Five - Also took three times. I got position all three times but due to the inside english I missed the shot the first two times.

Just wondering how some of the posters on here would do if they tried these seven shots just one time? Looks like good practice for 9-Ball.

r/DCP
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
Okay, here you go:

Diagram Two - https://pad.chalkysticks.com/f381c.png
Draw back for the 9B.

Diagram Four - https://pad.chalkysticks.com/fd525.png
Cut into the corner and get position on the 9B.

Diagram Five - https://pad.chalkysticks.com/e429a.png
Inside english to get position on the 8B.

r/DCP
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The first one does not need draw, there is an angle there to play it with top spin.
You could elevate the cue and draw it a bit, don't need all the way back but it'll still be the wrong way of playing it. Don't elevate the cue unless you have to.

I used to love those hard cuts 15-20 years ago, don't know why but I nailed them very consistently. These days I find them harder, but it also depends on the table, if the rails are jumpy, you have to be super accurate and can't cheat the pocket. i used to shoot them with inside english to pass the side pocket and not scratch.

The third one is quite easy, in my opinion; just top spin, maybe a little running english, again; it depends on the rails and how they play.
 
skor said:
The first one does not need draw, there is an angle there to play it with top spin.
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I think Bob intended for the shot to be played with draw to see if it was something that the player could do. I agree with what you are saying but that would, I believe, defeat the purpose of this drill/shot.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
I think Bob intended for the shot to be played with draw to see if it was something that the player could do. I agree with what you are saying but that would, I believe, defeat the purpose of this drill/shot.
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I can draw it back, half way will be enough but can get it all the way back if needed.
The way I shoot these shots is using close bridge on the rail, elevate the butt and upon relaesing the stroke, I let the cue slide down, like throwing the cue atthe CB, it'll generate the draw quite easily.
 
I was going through some papers the other day and found some progressive practice drills with article from
Bob in 1992. The paper with diagrams was from San Francisco Billiard Academy. I don’t remember where I got it as I’ve been to a lot of pool schools over the years but don’t remember being there
 
First one is just a follow shot. If you're supposed to draw it, then draw it.

Second one, I'd just go side pocket instead. (yes pool is that accurate) If Bob has a gun to your head, go corner until it goes. There might be a trick cross side there too. IDK.

Third one is iffy for me. The problem is most could probably bang out the 3,4,5 rail shape but with the 9 in the way, you cant just cinch the 7 and expect a good landing. Object ball accuracy becomes very touchy over the range of however you shoot it.
 
Folks,
I think Bob was putting forth these shots as the type that you might need to practice, shots you might need one day. For people to come on here and talk about playing them some other way than Bob intended is, well, what's the word I want to use here? Wrong. Or perhaps just plain stupid is a better way to put it.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
Folks,
I think Bob was putting forth these shots as the type that you might need to practice, shots you might need one day. For people to come on here and talk about playing them some other way than Bob intended is, well, what's the word I want to use here? Wrong. Or perhaps just plain stupid is a better way to put it.
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You're not open to alternate ideas? Bob and ilk seem close to the upscale variety of denizen. IOW those shots might work on upscale equipment. For us mortals, practicing and incorporating those shots as prescribed is a recipe for fish.
 
The way I shoot these shots is using close bridge on the rail, elevate the butt and upon relaesing the stroke, I let the cue slide down, like throwing the cue atthe CB, it'll generate the draw quite easily.
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It goes like this, right?

 
DrCue'sProtege said:
When I go to the Amish restaurant and eat I usually take an older pool magazine and read through it. Today I had the subject magazine and ran across Bob Jewett's article on Big Shots on pages 24 & 25. He listed seven (7) shots that you need for rotation games.

So after I got home I went to the table and set up all seven of the shots he had diagrammed. I shot them all one time. I made four of them on the first try. Here's the ones I missed:

Diagram Two - shot it several times, never got the CB to draw back. This is an extremely difficult shot for me.
Diagram Four - Shot it three times before I made it and got the CB in decent position for the 9B.
Diagram Five - Also took three times. I got position all three times but due to the inside english I missed the shot the first two times.

Just wondering how some of the posters on here would do if they tried these seven shots just one time? Looks like good practice for 9-Ball.

r/DCP
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Havent tried these yet but I will today and post results.

My predictions.

Shot 2, No problem. (1 try)
Shot 4, Big Problem. For me that is the hardest of the ones you posted. Focus on making the ball more then anything with a hair of outside spin. (3 tries)
Shot 5, Definitely another very hard shot, again, focusing on making the ball more then anything here and the inside english should just carry you to the 8. (3 tries)

Will post back results later today.

Edit: Love threads like this.
 
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straightline said:
First one is just a follow shot. If you're supposed to draw it, then draw it.

Second one, I'd just go side pocket instead. (yes pool is that accurate) If Bob has a gun to your head, go corner until it goes. There might be a trick cross side there too. IDK.

Third one is iffy for me. The problem is most could probably bang out the 3,4,5 rail shape but with the 9 in the way, you cant just cinch the 7 and expect a good landing. Object ball accuracy becomes very touchy over the range of however you shoot it.
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He posted these the way the article said to shoot them. 2 and 4 can be played differently, but that is not the intention of the article/drill.

Edit: @DrCue'sProtege You mind posting the other 4?
 
I must be looking at a different shot. The first shot (Diagram #2) is a draw shot to get get position for a side pocket shot. Shooting with follow is going to make a long shot, or if shooting in the side , a possible scratch..
 
Tennesseejoe said:
I must be looking at a different shot. The first shot (Diagram #2) is a draw shot to get get position for a side pocket shot. Shooting with follow is going to make a long shot, or if shooting in the side , a possible scratch..
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oooh. wait... is shot 2 playing 8ball or 9ball? I assumed 9ball... you are assuming 8ball.
 
Icon of Sin said:
He posted these the way the article said to shoot them. 2 and 4 can be played differently, but that is not the intention of the article/drill.

Edit: @DrCue'sProtege You mind posting the other 4?
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Yaaaah! Scans of the pages would be optimal

Maybe @Bob Jewett can share it easier?

Further: maybe it would be amusing to have a weekly thread/ challenge of h-o-r-s. I'd be ok if an e at the end was used too.

Who better than bob, right to host that, right? You know...what has he ever done for the game?!?!

Touche, jewett
 
Black-Balled said:
Yaaaah! Scans of the pages would be optimal

Maybe @Bob Jewett can share it easier?

Further: maybe it would be amusing to have a weekly thread/ challenge of h-o-r-s. I'd be ok if an e at the end was used too.

Who better than bob, right to host that, right? You know...what has he ever done for the game?!?!

Touche, jewett
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The weekly challenge would be fun and hysterical, especially if we did it live, which wouldnt be too hard over Discord or something like that.

H<----loves me some hors.
 
Icon of Sin said:
He posted these the way the article said to shoot them. 2 and 4 can be played differently, but that is not the intention of the article/drill.

Edit: @DrCue'sProtege You mind posting the other 4?
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Yeah I know. There was no initial stipulation anyway. Fast table, climate controlled lab is about the zone for the prescribed shots. Even on the Matchroom tour, what do you see? Safety maybe.
 
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