https://www.youtube.com/@elflacobillarista ( Skinny Billiard)

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There's no system for every ticky or every situation you're going to come across. But for basic tickies there obviously is a system, it's right there. I use it all the time, works really well. There are plenty of times I don't use it and just have to go on feel. But if I absolutely have to make the point below, I just use the system, I've used it thousands of times, I know exactly where the ball is going, right to 30 on the third rail. Why would I want to reinvent the wheel in the middle of a game with some counterintuitive mix of english and hit? A pro might to get better position or something. Me, I'll be satisfied with making a point.

We're not world class players here, Bert. Nobody has the time to devote three hours a day to practicing every possible iteration of ball hit and english on something that doesn't really come up all that often like tickies. It's a game I play for fun, and it's a tough game. I have more fun when I make points, and if I can remove one variable out of the ten you have to consider on every shot, I'll take the advantage. When I retire, I promise I'll work on playing by feel.

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@Moe Szyslak
i just saw this post now
dont know why i didnt get an alert of your post or i just missed it
thanks....
no need to check your pm....
the debate of systems vs feel has been going on for a long time
for many its like religion or politics
the way the see it is the "right" way
as system proponent
like you i agree that it helps to shorten the learning curve of where the ball goes or how to get it to go there
but also i have come to understand that developing feel is also important as the subconscious is able to do more than the conscious mind
ie help in adjusting for example
so in the end they both are good to develop/learn
JMHO
ICBW

 

[mr3cushion]

@Moe Szyslak
i just saw this post now
dont know why i didnt get an alert of your post or i just missed it
thanks....
no need to check your pm....
the debate of systems vs feel has been going on for a long time
for many its like religion or politics
the way the see it is the "right" way
as system proponent
like you i agree that it helps to shorten the learning curve of where the ball goes or how to get it to go there
but also i have come to understand that developing feel is also important as the subconscious is able to do more than the conscious mind
ie help in adjusting for example
so in the end they both are good to develop/learn
JMHO
ICBW

Both are important to develop into a 'Complete 3C' player!

Where I disagree is in the 'Order' taught or learned by a 'Beginner'!

Without having a 'Correct/Consistent' stroke first, any system will be flawed from the git go!

I've instructed over 350 students since 87, some have asked, "When will you teach me the 'Diamond System"?

I have the same reply every time, "It's the last element of the game you need to learn"!

 

[Moe Szyslak]

I learned the diamond system from playing pool and reading Robert Byrne's book 25+ years ago. It's what got me into 3C to begin with.

It's a different world here from where you grew up in, or Europe or Columbia or Korea. The game came dangerously close to complete and total extinction in the US. I will show anybody anything to stop them going back to 9-ball.