Need Jump AND break cue, would prefer to get both in one cue, suggestions?

I also have a Mike Gulyassy Sledgehammer Cue it was made in 2005 I've not tried jumping any balls with it yet but it spreads out the balls on the break very well , so in turn I feel it will do well jumping balls when I start trying that next after I get some cloth to protect the table .
 
SeniorTom said:
Raven Four piece J/B cue
Dicount Code = raven10off
Shaft - 4oz
Butt Top - 4.4
Butt Mid - 5.2
Butt Bottom - 6.4
Total = 20 oz

Dominus jump cue $445
Dominus Whip Hard Tip 13 mm
Shaft = 29" 4.35oz
Butt mid=13" 7oz
Butt End=12" 5oz
Total Length = 54"
Total Weight = 16.4 oz
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Thanks for that info ST.
 
Shooter1 said:
First off, I don't jump very well and am working on that. I've been using a McDermott Stinger jump/break for a number of years and it does OK as a break cue but I can't help but think there are much better options for a jump cue.
I would prefer to have a more effective combo jump/break cue so I don't have to carry as much stuff in my case but if a dedicated jump cue only is the way to go I guess that's what I'll have to do.
Does anyone have experience with a good combo jump break or should I just keep my Stinger and use it for breaking and buy a dedicated jump cue?

Thanks
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Have the Stinger too and its low key a damn fine jump cue. On some days, I jump better with it than the Cuetec Avid Surge that I have.
 
Shooter1 said:
Thanks for that info ST.
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I just won a game on a short, quick up and down shot, with this jumper. There are a number of things I like about this particular jumper, looks and feel and such, but it is so versatile having a three-piece butt that you can adapt to the shaft to get any jumping need taken care of. Predator makes an excellent jump / break cue, that you are paying twice as much for the name as you will with the one I have. It is a great cue, but I think you pay somewhat for the name predator to be stamped on it.
 
SeniorTom said:
Raven Four piece J/B cue
Dicount Code = raven10off
Shaft - 4oz
Butt Top - 4.4
Butt Mid - 5.2
Butt Bottom - 6.4
Total = 20 oz

Dominus jump cue $445
Dominus Whip Hard Tip 13 mm
Shaft = 29" 4.35oz
Butt mid=13" 7oz
Butt End=12" 5oz
Total Length = 54"
Total Weight = 16.4 oz
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SSP said:
Your J/B is not long enough for me when using it as a jump cue, MY jump cue was not long enough for me unless I was using the extension handle, once I learned that I was able to jump balls consistently, taller players may run into the same problem as I did.
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Huh? 58 in is not long enough? 🤔 I have to disagree, that is more than sufficient. Plus any length combination you may need. Sorry, if you think that my j / b is not long enough, you may need an instructor?
 
SeniorTom said:
Huh? 58 in is not long enough? 🤔 I have to disagree, that is more than sufficient. Plus any length combination you may need. Sorry, if you think that my j / b is not long enough, you may need an instructor?
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If you read my first post it was a PBIA Billiards instructor that directed me to use the extension on my jump cue which is longer than a normal jump cue but not as long as a 58" break cue, I'm glad a jump/break cue works for you, if you are a taller player it may not.
 
SSP said:
If you read my first post it was a PBIA Billiards instructor that directed me to use the extension on my jump cue which is longer than a normal jump cue but not as long as a 58" break cue, I'm glad a jump/break cue works for you, if you are a taller player it may not.
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I am 6'1", and sorry, but I have never given thought to a longer stick need for jumping. Usually players disassemble their b\j cue because it's too long or too heavy. Also, some in here are talking about a dedicated break cue and a dedicated jumper, and I was always in that persuasion as well, but got tired of carrying three different sticks. I bought a professional dedicated jumping cue stick and it worked very well, but my b/j stick works every bit as good for jumping. I don't see myself going back to dedicated jumpsticks and break sticks, it just isn't worth it to me when I can have the best of both worlds in one stick. Others I game with have gone the same route as me, getting tired of three sticks when you can get away just as well with a b\j. When I had my dedicated jumper, I would rarely take it out of the bag and get it ready for competition because I would too often forgo jumping because it was a hassle to get out of the bag, I like the challenge of kicking, and not slowing down the competition.
 
Shooter1 said:
First off, I don't jump very well and am working on that. I've been using a McDermott Stinger jump/break for a number of years and it does OK as a break cue but I can't help but think there are much better options for a jump cue.
I would prefer to have a more effective combo jump/break cue so I don't have to carry as much stuff in my case but if a dedicated jump cue only is the way to go I guess that's what I'll have to do.
Does anyone have experience with a good combo jump break or should I just keep my Stinger and use it for breaking and buy a dedicated jump cue?

Thanks
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Keep this as your break cue, get you a CueTec Propel jump cue, it has been proven the best mass production jump cue as end of 2025!!!
 
SeniorTom said:
I am 6'1", and sorry, but I have never given thought to a longer stick need for jumping. Usually players disassemble their b\j cue because it's too long or too heavy. Also, some in here are talking about a dedicated break cue and a dedicated jumper, and I was always in that persuasion as well, but got tired of carrying three different sticks. I bought a professional dedicated jumping cue stick and it worked very well, but my b/j stick works every bit as good for jumping. I don't see myself going back to dedicated jumpsticks and break sticks, it just isn't worth it to me when I can have the best of both worlds in one stick. Others I game with have gone the same route as me, getting tired of three sticks when you can get away just as well with a b\j. When I had my dedicated jumper, I would rarely take it out of the bag and get it ready for competition because I would too often forgo jumping because it was a hassle to get out of the bag, I like the challenge of kicking, and not slowing down the competition.
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I always advocate for using what is best for you, what worked for you didn't work for me, I would say if someone already owns a J/B cue try it and see how it works for you, if you are happy with it you won't need a jump cue, if you're not happy with it try a dedicated jump cue.
 
Mensabum said:
I jumped with my daily player back in the 70s and 80s.
When I started playing again recently, no air!! 😭
Couldn't figure it out. So I got a dedicated jump cue.
Considering how prices on those era cues has appreciated, no way would I jump with one, even if I could.
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Most modern shafts are lower deflection now, which really sucks for jumping. That could be part of it.
I like low deflection for breaking, and high deflection for jumping, which makes a single break/jump cue less than ideal.
 
I sometimes go several league nights wo needing a jump cue, because it's not a shot that comes up that often. When it does, I am ready quickly, and not much hassle. Because the shot does not come up that often players are not that well versed in jumping. It is a skill set that needs practice, but the opportunities during competition don't crop up that much. Most players who try to jump often fail because they don't get enough practice to hone their skills. I watch players pull their expensive predator or cuetec jumper out of the bag and make a mess of the shot. If you spend that kind of money, $600 to $700, that's a lot of investment for a dedicated cue that you might use once every four League nights. Another issue is getting ample practice with a jump cue, as is not as simple as it seems to find the opportunity to practice. Most folks don't like practicing their jumping on their own table because it does leave slight burn marks. I generally do all my jumping at the local pool hall, as they allow it there, and change their cloth once a year regardless. When I was using a dedicated jump cue, I would often think about it being in my bag and not being used that often for various reasons. This is another reason I purchased a j/b stick is that it will give me less inhibition about using it when a jumping need arises. The thing about a dedicated stick as opposed to a j/b stick can be an issue, but I feel my j/b I recently purchased is as good as any dedicated jump cue. It also breaks hard.
 
I just made a 60” jump cue, always hated jumping with a short cue. Weighs 13.8 oz and workin to make it a little lighter. Even on close jumps I don’t see the need to have shorter.
 
SeniorTom said:
I sometimes go several league nights wo needing a jump cue, because it's not a shot that comes up that often. When it does, I am ready quickly, and not much hassle. Because the shot does not come up that often players are not that well versed in jumping. It is a skill set that needs practice, but the opportunities during competition don't crop up that much. Most players who try to jump often fail because they don't get enough practice to hone their skills. I watch players pull their expensive predator or cuetec jumper out of the bag and make a mess of the shot. If you spend that kind of money, $600 to $700, that's a lot of investment for a dedicated cue that you might use once every four League nights. Another issue is getting ample practice with a jump cue, as is not as simple as it seems to find the opportunity to practice. Most folks don't like practicing their jumping on their own table because it does leave slight burn marks. I generally do all my jumping at the local pool hall, as they allow it there, and change their cloth once a year regardless. When I was using a dedicated jump cue, I would often think about it being in my bag and not being used that often for various reasons. This is another reason I purchased a j/b stick is that it will give me less inhibition about using it when a jumping need arises. The thing about a dedicated stick as opposed to a j/b stick can be an issue, but I feel my j/b I recently purchased is as good as any dedicated jump cue. It also breaks hard.
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I agree you need to practice to jump well, I bought some scrap cloth and made patches with it for breaking and jumping to protect my cloth, it has worked well.
 
Rodney said:
I just made a 60” jump cue, always hated jumping with a short cue. Weighs 13.8 oz and workin to make it a little lighter. Even on close jumps I don’t see the need to have shorter.
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Show us a video of you jumping a full ball that's an inch away from the cue ball and I'll believe you. 👍
 
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