Savannah “The RoadRunner” Easton using a wood shaft?

if your shafts are made with cured wood they dont warp. i have cues for 50 years in cars outside from 110 degrees to minus 30 or more and no warps and dead straight .

and cf does not send more kinetic energy to the cue ball for the same speed and weight.
if it did it, would not be noticeable anyway. so its all in your minds.

you have been fooled by advertising and lies or at least just advertising.

there are advantages but not those.
 
Little things can get in your head when you play. I'm a little OCD, so a tiny, slight nick in my shaft - I feel it. I then have to spend time solving it in the many ways it can be solved at home before my next match.
I finally gave away my wooden Katana version 3 shaft and switched to a rhino. Cheap but effective, and I don't have any tiny nicks in my shaft to give me a reason for self-doubt.
 
maha said:
if your shafts are made with cured wood they dont warp. i have cues for 50 years in cars outside from 110 degrees to minus 30 or more and no warps and dead straight .

and cf does not send more kinetic energy to the cue ball for the same speed and weight.
if it did it, would not be noticeable anyway. so its all in your minds.

you have been fooled by advertising and lies or at least just advertising.

there are advantages but not those.
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It’s remarkable how you can write with such authority and yet be so wrong…
This is why people should be careful on the internet
 
I could be wrong, but I think there was a video out there that I think was made to show different shafts deflection by using a shooting machine that measured speed also, and the carbon shafts showed a higher speed of the ball. I shoot mostly with a wood shaft, but have Rhino shafts also and real or perceived, it does seem loke the Rhino shafts impart more energy.
 
skor said:
You can’t really form a real opinion based upon a few shots.
Play with CF for 6 months and then go back to wood and let’s talk again
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I have a hard time getting past the first few shots with carbon shafts. I don't know if it was the tips or the shaft itself but it seems like the dozen or so I have tried so far all seemed so dead, like they had super soft tips on them, there is barely any feedback after hitting the cue ball. When I hit the cue ball i want information back from the cue, so far I have not got that from a carbon shaft. I would hate to have to spend $500 on a shaft and then install a tip of my preference and still hate the hit.
 
fastone371 said:
I have a hard time getting past the first few shots with carbon shafts. I don't know if it was the tips or the shaft itself but it seems like the dozen or so I have tried so far all seemed so dead, like they had super soft tips on them, there is barely any feedback after hitting the cue ball. When I hit the cue ball i want information back from the cue, so far I have not got that from a carbon shaft. I would hate to have to spend $500 on a shaft and then install a tip of my preference and still hate the hit.
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Honestly just curious, and not being snarky. What information are you wanting to get back from the cue. Don't you get your info from the results? from where the cue ball goes? I can understand enjoying the feel of a shaft more than another, but I've never understood the term "getting info from the cue". I'm barely a 500 fargo player, so there's a ton I can learn.
 
jay helfert said:
5

I had 750cc four cylinder Hondas that ran circles around Harleys. So what!
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I had a Honda 750 Shadow, rode that thing all over North Idaho, Eastern Washington, and Western Montana. Rode it from Coeur d'Alene, ID to Jackpot Nevada twice. Loved that bike, it just didn't have the power or the storage capacity to haul my camping gear. That's the only reason I bought the Harley.
 
and I have a Can-Am Spyder and most people think it's not a "real motorcycle". Yet its it he most comfortable vehicle to travel.

Back to the subject. CF shaft being superior to wood shaft does not render wood shaft not good. Both option are good. CF is just a superior material. This is not rocket science. Does that mean you need a CF shaft to win games ? absolutely not.
 
Chili Palmer said:
I had a Honda 750 Shadow, rode that thing all over North Idaho, Eastern Washington, and Western Montana. Rode it from Coeur d'Alene, ID to Jackpot Nevada twice. Loved that bike, it just didn't have the power or the storage capacity to haul my camping gear. That's the only reason I bought the Harley.
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Mine were both soft tail choppers, light weight, low to the ground and bored/stroked to 880 cc. Most comfortable ride ever. Ride 300 miles and it was like getting out of a car.

Best of all they never broke down, rain or shine.
 
skor said:
You can’t really form a real opinion based upon a few shots.
Play with CF for 6 months and then go back to wood and let’s talk again
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How would I even isolate the shaft as being the cause of improvement? I would hope that I am simply more skilled by the end of that time period regardless of what shaft I'm using.
 
fogboundturtle said:
and I have a Can-Am Spyder and most people think it's not a "real motorcycle". Yet its it he most comfortable vehicle to travel.

Back to the subject. CF shaft being superior to wood shaft does not render wood shaft not good. Both option are good. CF is just a superior material. This is not rocket science. Does that mean you need a CF shaft to win games ? absolutely not.
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I would say that you could argue CF has objectively superior non-performance related characteristics, like durability and ease of cleanliness.

However feel is subjective and even deflection is not an end all here. There are low deflection wood shafts and maybe some elite players actually want some deflection for certain kinds of shots.
 
Lowell said:
I would say that you could argue CF has objectively superior non-performance related characteristics, like durability and ease of cleanliness.

However feel is subjective and even deflection is not an end all here. There are low deflection wood shafts and maybe some elite players actually want some deflection for certain kinds of shots.
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Yes, LD is mostly marketing bs even though it's scientifically provable. Cue manufacturer emphasis its significance as if it was a determining factor between a well build shaft or one that is not. I love m Joss Cue. It's a great shooter but most day, I have a revo shaft on it. That's just the way it goes.
 
fastone371 said:
I have a hard time getting past the first few shots with carbon shafts. I don't know if it was the tips or the shaft itself but it seems like the dozen or so I have tried so far all seemed so dead, like they had super soft tips on them, there is barely any feedback after hitting the cue ball. When I hit the cue ball i want information back from the cue, so far I have not got that from a carbon shaft. I would hate to have to spend $500 on a shaft and then install a tip of my preference and still hate the hit.
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You don’t have to, but you will never know until you try.
It’s a hobby for the most of us, if you can afford trying something new then go for it, if not, don’t.
I was always able to sell a cue I didn’t like for a small loss.
 
fogboundturtle said:
Yes, LD is mostly marketing bs even though it's scientifically provable. Cue manufacturer emphasis its significance as if it was a determining factor between a well build shaft or one that is not. I love m Joss Cue. It's a great shooter but most day, I have a revo shaft on it. That's just the way it goes.
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It is scientifically provable and I think it matters to an extent, but I don't think something like 1.5 vs 1.75 inches on the maximum squirt test is going to make much of a difference for even elite players.

Joss now makes carbon shafts, I wonder how they are.
 
Lowell said:
It is scientifically provable and I think it matters to an extent, but I don't think something like 1.5 vs 1.75 inches on the maximum squirt test is going to make much of a difference for even elite players.

Joss now makes carbon shafts, I wonder how they are.
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They are probably just as good as all the other CF shaft on the market. There is some incredible CF shaft coming out of China that are shockingly good for the price.

Once the tariff war ends, I might order the Joss CF shaft.
 
Lowell said:
It is scientifically provable and I think it matters to an extent, but I don't think something like 1.5 vs 1.75 inches on the maximum squirt test is going to make much of a difference for even elite players.

Joss now makes carbon shafts, I wonder how they are.
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Those tests don’t show the real value and benefit of a true low deflection shafts.

In real life, with LD shaft, you don’t need to compensate for deflection (on most shots), just stay parallel to the line of shot. No guess work, makes any player more accurate and more consistent.

If a little bit of throw still gets the ball in the pockets on a 7ft table with 5 inch pockets, it won’t on a 9ft with 4 inch pockets.

Can a player win with a regular shaft? Absolutely!!!
He just needs to work harder.
 
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