Any tips for consistently shooting with follow through?

[BobbyD963]

Watch Ken Griffie Jr and his follow through.
Ichiro had a unique uniform adjustment as his pre pitch routine.

I really appreciate the analogy because I used to play baseball through high school and adult league in my 20s and 30s. Ken Griffey Jr had one of the purest swings baseball has ever seen. Im not sure how to incorporate that into my pool stroke though.

 

[JolietJames]

Guy made a short vid to teach this to a beginner. Place a ball about 8-10 inches straight out from the side pocket. Line up to shoot it straight into the pocket. One practice stroke then pause at the ball and push it all the way into the pocket with the tip of the cue. It is supposed to teach the muscle memory of going through the ball and the extension after. It has helped a couple new players.

 

[gregcantrall]

I really appreciate the analogy because I used to play baseball through high school and adult league in my 20s and 30s. Ken Griffey Jr had one of the purest swings baseball has ever seen. Im not sure how to incorporate that into my pool stroke

Nature and Nurture are what leads to being the Greatest old goat. OF ALl Time.
The body builders put in the reps.
Some of us not quite The Natural but put in the reps.....could hang with 'em. Well for a little while.
Greating the adrenaline rush ON THE NATURAL! ooops didn't mean to shout. is exhilarating enough for me.
Getting the mind right before battle is something that Coach McHargue taught us in high school . He took the football team that hadn't won A game in years to 31 straight victories. We had a week to prepare.
Maximize the accuracy of the strike and as a small center move or control much larger opponents. The big ones were easy. My toughest battle was a middle guard that was smallish. Jiu-jitsu is a valuable training.

 

[gregcantrall]

Doing form work as a carpenter earned a good chunk of my retirement.
The Jiu-jitsu form work is much lighter work.
Finding the balance and holding for 10 seconds is a little more of a challenge than I expected . Was a forced abort at the Snap on both attempts ... seems like a morning's worth of fitness.

 

[BarenbruggeCues]

Any tips for consistently shooting with follow through?​

If you're not using a Whitten tip you are missing the boat.
NOT a mass produced made in China tip like 98% of every other tips advertised.

 

[gregcantrall]

Just the Basics Mam. Give it a week.

 

[gregcantrall]

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Just the Basics Mam. Give it a week.

The coffee cup is to warm the fingers.
Ah, but Here comes the sun.

 

[heater451]

Guy made a short vid to teach this to a beginner. Place a ball about 8-10 inches straight out from the side pocket. Line up to shoot it straight into the pocket. One practice stroke then pause at the ball and push it all the way into the pocket with the tip of the cue. It is supposed to teach the muscle memory of going through the ball and the extension after. It has helped a couple new players.

I've told players to try this idea as well, but I usually set up a line of balls at one end of the table, for each to be shot into one of the far corners--in this case, pushed. My hope is also that they build a rythym, when moving from ball, and I usually try to get them to use a 'rote' PSR on each ball.

 

[heater451]

I’m sure I’m missing something with this drill besides the ball I don’t see how this drill is going to fix my many flaws, it does show me my stroke is very inconsistent but it no way in hell it tells me how to fix my flaws.

Serious question: Are you good at *identifying* your flaws?

 

[DeeDeeCues]

On with the hair splitting, it isn't or hasn't been for many decades a valid engineering or scientific term if that suits you better. According to the scientific guidelines, you are always accelerating in one direction or the other. Never saw it myself but neither "decelerate" or any of it's derivatives was proper to use in engineering and scientific writing. Figured if I didn't mention it, somebody else would!

Once upon a time I wrote and edited scientific papers. "decelerate" was a term we didn't use. A quick look turned up the information below. More digging would turn up reams of documentation I suspect. Been over twenty years since I have done any serious technical writing. Back then we couldn't use the word. Kinda like the words "ain't" or "kinda"! Everybody knows what we mean but we still don't use the word in technical writing, or didn't in my day.

According to the protocols of the day, there was positive and negative acceleration, one or the other if something was changing speed. Deceleration wasn't a proper term. Using it was a quick way to get your writing redflagged.

There are entire sets of dictionaries. Always wanted a set if I ran across one cheap. I have seen sets of dictionaries that were as bulky as the Encyclopedia Britannica. I suspect there are lots of words in there that aren't considered proper.

I'll continue to use "decelerate" on a pool forum when convenient. If I ever send another proposal to NASA I still won't use it, or "won't" either!!(grin) In technical terms deceleration is negative acceleration, a bit of knowledge few if any pool players will ever need to know!

Now on to important things: How many angels can stand on the head of a pin?

Hu



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No such thing as decelerating only acceleration?

We tend to avoid the term "decelerating," because the temptation is to assign that term to any problem where the acceleration is negative. Just because the acceleration is negative doesn't necessarily mean the thing is slowing down. If the velocity is also negative, then a negative acceleration means it's speeding up. More on reddit.com

I'm an engineer and the term is used often in speaking and writing.

In calculations and proofs, acceleration is always used.

The reason 'deceleration' is used in scientific writing is that it is the most concise way of communicating the idea at hand.

Some engineers and physicists are pedantic asshats and will not use that and similar terms, but that is an incredible mistake. Most of engineering writing is not for other engineers, it is for the less technical public. Almost all of my writing in my career has been to communicate ideas to managers, and purchasing agents; or as manuals for multi-million dollar machines so machinists could operate them. I'm not going to talk about 'negative acceleration', I'll use 'deceleration', or even, *gasp*, 'slows down'.

Technical writing is not to prove how smart you are, it is to convey ideas in the most precise, concise, and understandable way possible.

 

[bbb]

Technical writing is not to prove how smart you are, it is to convey ideas in the most precise, concise, and understandable way possible.

"You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother.”​

― Albert Einstein

 

[ShootingArts]

I'm an engineer and the term is used often in speaking and writing.

In calculations and proofs, acceleration is always used.

The reason 'deceleration' is used in scientific writing is that it is the most concise way of communicating the idea at hand.

Some engineers and physicists are pedantic asshats and will not use that and similar terms, but that is an incredible mistake. Most of engineering writing is not for other engineers, it is for the less technical public. Almost all of my writing in my career has been to communicate ideas to managers, and purchasing agents; or as manuals for multi-million dollar machines so machinists could operate them. I'm not going to talk about 'negative acceleration', I'll use 'deceleration', or even, *gasp*, 'slows down'.

Technical writing is not to prove how smart you are, it is to convey ideas in the most precise, concise, and understandable way possible.

Why would acceleration always be used in calculations and proofs if deceleration is perfectly acceptable?

You made my point well. Thanks!

Hu

 

[DeeDeeCues]

Why would acceleration always be used in calculations and proofs if deceleration is perfectly acceptable?

You made my point well. Thanks!

Hu

Funny stuff.

 

[Chris]

Why would acceleration always be used in calculations and proofs if deceleration is perfectly acceptable?

Deceleration is not acceptable, except to laymen who do not do calculations or write proofs. Some form of slow down is much more appropriate when the discussion is less formal, since it is more precise and doesn't conflate velocity and speed.

 

[jtompilot]

Serious question: Are you good at *identifying* your flaws?

I know most of my flaws, I don’t know how to fix them. I can shoot the mighty X for and still will never be able to fix a problem even though I know my stroke is crooked and changes with draw or follow and lesser amount with center ball.

 

[heater451]

I know most of my flaws, I don’t know how to fix them. I can shoot the mighty X for and still will never be able to fix a problem even though I know my stroke is crooked and changes with draw or follow and lesser amount with center ball.

Okay, so you say your stroke is crooked. If you don't want to pay for a coach, are you able to video record yourself, or maybe know of a high-level player that might be able to observe your and provide feedback?

Another way, which may have already failed you, is to confirm a consistent bad result--such as always adding right spin, for example--and working to correct that *specific* thing.

You may even need to follow the old adage, about "emptying your cup" too. If you've already played awhile, then you have likely trained yourself to bad habits (I still have plenty of my own), and you seriously have to think about what to correct, and how to correct.

 

[Hail Mary Shot]

Doing form work as a carpenter earned a good chunk of my retirement.
The Jiu-jitsu form work is much lighter work. View attachment 941000View attachment 941001
Finding the balance and holding for 10 seconds is a little more of a challenge than I expected . Was a forced abort at the Snap on both attempts ... seems like a morning's worth of fitness.

Don't forget to wax on and wax off.

 

[BilliardsAbout]

I disagree with any suggestion on this thread that has someone consciously power through the follow through.

Use long, flowing backstrokes in practice and final strokes, to bring the ferrule (carefully, intentionally, practice by watching the ferrule!) all the way to the bridge hand. Then, with a relaxed, smooth forward stroke, you’ll achieve a gorgeous follow‑through and a natural, paced acceleration—after all, we’re working on a pool stroke, not a hit.