Hello kevin I have a friend who has used his Tad (this Plain style) for yrs-he was, is almost unbeatable. While in Hawaii I got to see 1 plain Tad dark stained birdseye,and a 4 pt. His price was 4,500. for the plain tad,5,500 for the fancy- both had the boxed butt design. Prices were high but I could have gotten for less. Its the Tad name- You pay for. very very nice cue. no luck needed to sell this one! mark