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Have you ever been beat by the village idiot? You know, the guy who who yells out loud or throws his cue or pool balls when he misses a shot straight in the hole or one that is way above his skill level? Or worse yet the guy who just slams into the balls hoping and praying something falls in...

Well, maybe that is my point! I'm not claiming to play at that level and don't expect them to give me a spot so I feel like it's Fair. Just like I don't want to give an unreasonable spot to someone who really shouldn't be trying to be competitive with anyone. There is plenty of events for lower...

It doesn't get any more vintage or rare than this! I have a Wayne Gunn cue built in 1973 in the shop of Rocky Tillis. He made the cue for himself to play snooker. This is a one of a kind cue with a lot of history. It still has the original Gunn sticker (see pics). Wayne Gunn and Terry Mceniry...

It seems like a lot of people share that sentiment. I think there should be a "participation acknowledgement " for league play. For some people it's a good time social outing that's not taken too seriously and their handicap will never be more than 2 or 3. They are a necessary segment of the...

I'm glad to see that there are objective people here. It's easy to look at things from only the perspective that fits your situation (strong or weaker,tourney or league player). There is room for everyone in the pool world. I just hate to see the traditional heads up style tournaments...

Went two and out last night. Played the two best player at the tournament. I don't mind a bit losing to two guys who played nearly perfect matches! Congrats to them both! As a matter of fact I invited them both to a nearby Calcutta tournament that they were both unaware of. I have no overblown...

Unbelievable,are you serious. If you need the 4 and the last three or the 5 ball from a bunch of average players you might want to take up checkers. Pool isn't a sport for people who need to be coddled. Do you know why I don't play pro events? BECAUSE I DONT DESERVE TO BE THERE!! I should be a...

If you have a league with a good handicapping system that you enjoy, that's great! The APA 9 ball format is really good imo. It requires you to pocket balls to score points. You can't just ride in the nine or your spotted ball and win. The problem with their system is it takes too long for a...

We're not talking pros here or even really strong regional players. We are talking about very weak players or super sandbagging cheaters that EXPECT as much of an opportunity to win as someone who has spent some time practicing. NEWSFLASH life is not FAIR!!

I couldn't agree more with you pepper! That is exactly the same sort of thing I have going on here. I'm not interested in being on a team with a bunch of cheating sandbaggers! Some of these handicaps are crazy and in a race to 3 winner breaks you can find yourself packing up and heading home...

Sounds like someone reached a low plateau and can't or doesn't care about improving. But you still want to be a "winner"!!!! Just how hard do you pat yourself on the back when you win getting the 5 ball. And who said league players are scum? Leagues are great for the game and the players! Some...

It's great to have people around who strive to improve, and I'm sure you wil! Where else can you go for $10 and be not only competitive but social and entertained! As far as your friend goes, some people don't like to play outside of their comfort zone.

You make many good points. I tend to agree with you. My point is that weekly competitive events for players that are more than social and less than touring pros are almost non existent these days. There are plenty of leagues and handicap tourneys for ball banging social types. What ever happened...

I agree. Just because I enjoy running doesn't mean everyone else at the marathon should slow down so I have a chance to win. And the starting line is the same for everyone. It would be very unrealistic for me to "expect "to have a chance the other athletes have been training for years. Do you...

That is pretty much the same thing I see going on here. When there is a decent turnout small groups of players agree to "cut-up" any winnings and it is very common for the final 2 or 3 players to not even finish out the tournament. The league players are always on the hunt for good players that...

Recently a player showed up to the tourney who was obviously very new to the game and had just been bitten by the"pool bug". Proudly displaying a new cue&case and excited about joining a team in the local league. The enthusiasm just beaming from their face.it really took me back, way back. It...

I appreciate all of the feedback on this topic and really can see all sides of the issue. I was lucky enough to be heavily involved in the sport during the late 80s and 90s (glory days). I remember pro and semi-pro players teaching lessons,pool halls thriving and all aspects of the industry...

Can you imagine a basketball game where certain players weren't allowed to jump because they had an "unfair" height advantage or a boxing match where the more experienced better trained fighter had to take 5 punches before he could punch back 1 time. The better fighter has every right to kick...

I just got back home from my local tournament. 4 people showed up. Normally there are 30-35 players. So I guess participation can be an issue regardless of handicap or not.

That sounds like a good idea. I'm all about playing better! All I know for sure is fewer and fewer people are interested in playing up to their potential and as long as they they don't have to they won't!!