leather wrap labor time?

Well we have local retired guy who does Tips, he charges $5.00 Labor, and cost of Tip pus a BUCK........Its a Hobby Business, he own the equipments, and has nice home, pension, cars, and is just helping local players. He does not need RIP PEOPLE OFF with CRAZY PRICES.
So what you're saying is a cuemaker that is charging prices so they can make a profit and pay for their business and make a house payment, car payment and take the wife out to a nice dinner once in awhile is ripping people off? with crazy prices that are MORE than a hobby guy who really doesn't give a sh!t how much they make cause they like doing it for fun?
Nice support for the cuemaker Bruce. :rolleyes:

cue ID help

Hi, I wonder, is Kao the company who built Lucasi cues back in the 90's? The reason I ask is I have seen a lot of Adam cues that looked like Lucasi cues, and even had the same Roman Numeral numbers on the opposite side of the logo, just like I have seen on Players cues. I know, I should just ask Google AI these days, and they might give me a good answer, lol.

I do wonder what Adam cues, specifically, Kao made.

Also, do you know of the Helmstetter cues that were made back in the late 90's? Like, 97, 98 series, iirc. Those cues had lop sided inlays, and uneven points, in my experience with many of them. Maybe they were made by Kao. I do not believe they were made in Japan. Helmstetter cues, made after the mid 90's, like the 97 and 98 series, if I have that right. I always thought the quality of those looked kind of poor.
The numbered Helmstetter cues were made in Japan by Adam.

I'll have to check my notes. I think I have something about when the collaboration with Kao was a thing. Year range at least.

These factories are all extremely capable. I think garzar can speak firsthand more specifically. Cue makers like Helmstetter and even Stroud dealt with them as far as business. No, I am not saying any JW was ever made by anyone but him. But he did design the Smart Shaft.

Much of what has been produced in the East just isn't commonly known here. That's both production and custom.

I watched a live stream of an 800 Fargo rate player, competing in a $20 weekly tournament, recently.

The chip tournaments that I ran, the winner stayed on the table. We had a couple people with over a 20 game winning streak

Oh, that is very cool. I like that. How many tables did you run the Chip tournaments on? Just curious. I guess that may have depended on the amount of players.

cue ID help

People that think Kao does not make well finished cues with even points and well done inlays are mistaken. As was said before, they collaborated with Adam. You can find identical points, butt sleeves, and inlays on Adam and Kao branded cues.

Hi, I wonder, is Kao the company who built Lucasi cues back in the 90's? The reason I ask is I have seen a lot of Adam cues that looked like Lucasi cues, and even had the same Roman Numeral numbers on the opposite side of the logo, just like I have seen on Players cues. I know, I should just ask Google AI these days, and they might give me a good answer, lol.

I do wonder what Adam cues, specifically, Kao made.

Also, do you know of the Helmstetter cues that were made back in the late 90's? Like, 97, 98 series, iirc. Those cues had lop sided inlays, and uneven points, in my experience with many of them. Maybe they were made by Kao. I do not believe they were made in Japan. Helmstetter cues, made after the mid 90's, like the 97 and 98 series, if I have that right. I always thought the quality of those looked kind of poor.

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PT109 Accu-Stats video and raffle

Used to go to Le Spot in Toronto years ago for the ten dollar flat fee all day play. PT was a mainstay there for a while. Always loved his presence and the fun stories and jokes.

He'd just be there with his laptop browsing through azb threads and watching bangers like me knock some balls around, and once in a while, he would come up and give you tips and tell you how to do a cool shot on the table! But I rarely saw him actually play orneven just shoot around.

My best memory of PT was one day him complimented my Josey and asked if he could shoot a few shots with it...in my head im screaming heck yea please! Grabbed my cue, inspected it, got down and fired 3 long shots all hitting centre pocket. He then declared "that is a nice player's cue!" (wich i am embarrassed a little cuz im just a banger lol).

FB link to Alex's post about PT:

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