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Good Sam · 2026-09-21T16:30:14-0700

jay helfert said:
There is a way to shoot this shot legally. Miz showed me how. Hold the tip with two fingers at the back of the ferrule. Lift the tip up and stroke directly foward. It is easier to control this shot than you think. Minimal practice necessary to learn how. Totally legal shot!

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Santosha · 2026-09-21T16:22:18-0700

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maha · 2026-09-21T16:20:25-0700

if you can get forward motion then it's too hard to judge in any way the legality of it. so most likely it is legal if done with forward motion as jay says.

it isnt detrimental so if either side can do it then not a real problem. and isnt too far out of the realm of pool shooting.

we allow almost straight up and down masse shots and jump shots that may or may not be more vertical than forward. so that is not being consistent.

jtompilot · 2026-09-21T16:16:57-0700

I’ll be at Bay Shore tomorrow and Wednesday during the day. I mostly play 1P but I haven’t had any success yet at Bay Shore getting a 1P game so I might have to try rotation. I haven’t seen a GC7 yet so I’ll have to try it out.

sjm · 2026-09-21T16:14:32-0700

jay helfert said:
Neils is an exception, as are Efren and Bustie. Rempe and David Howard also had long careers.

Of course, the longest career of them all in the 9ball era was that of Ralf Souquet, who is at it for nearly 40 years and is still competing at a high level.

11Cues · 2026-09-21T16:12:14-0700

I know this thread is a few years old, but I recently acquired two matching vintage Brunswick two-piece cues that share several of the same features discussed here — longitudinal gold BRUNSWICK branding, circular B treatment, and related older brass joint hardware.

I’m currently trying to identify the model/era and wondered whether anyone ever came across a definitive answer on the cues shown in this thread, or found catalog documentation tying this design to a specific period.

I’ve also started a separate thread with side-by-side photos and measurements of my two examples if anyone is interested in comparing them.

Thread 'Two Matching Vintage Brunswick Full-Splice Two-Piece Cues — Help Identifying Model/Era'
https://forums.azbilliards.com/thre...ece-cues-—-help-identifying-model-era.590193/

jay helfert · 2026-09-21T16:03:17-0700

Bob Jewett said:
I call that the hara-kiri technique.

Why? It's easy to shoot and works quite well. Best of all it's a legal stroke. You don't know what you don't know!

jay helfert · 2026-09-21T16:01:00-0700

Neils is an exception, as are Efren and Bustie. Rempe and David Howard also had long careers.

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